Summary

Scott Torrin, an operational excellence and continuous improvement professional, joins Route to Success to talk openly about the pain of feeling stuck between his current job title and the career he knows he’s capable of. He and the host dig into how mismatched job titles create real barriers in the job search, how AI-driven hiring has flooded the process with applicants, and how family, faith in “the one right match,” and taking things one bridge at a time keep him moving forward.

Show Notes

00:00 – Intro: the show explores feeling stuck between what you’ve done and what you’re capable of

00:18 – Meet guest Scott Torrin and the problem of career growth tied to job titles, not skills

00:58 – Scott thanks the host for the opportunity to have a difficult, vulnerable conversation

01:11 – How the host and Scott met through an OU advisory board

01:30 – Scott’s career path across retail, pharma, and engineering/construction industries

02:19 – The realization: identifying which workdays didn’t feel like work

02:24 – Example: chasing down a documentation issue outside his job scope

03:39 – Host digs into how Scott arrived at the “what days made me happiest” question

04:08 – Mundane work as the contrast that revealed his real passion for problem-solving

05:43 – Host on the value of brutally honest self-reflection

06:10 – How mismatched job titles have hurt Scott’s confidence and job search

07:11 – Why “operational excellence” means wildly different things across companies

08:07 – Second-guessing years of experience when titles don’t match job postings

09:37 – Host shares her own hiring philosophy on degrees vs. real-world experience

10:52 – Companies claiming to hire for skills but actually hiring for title-matched experience

11:16 – The AI arms race in job applications and resumes

11:50 – Job postings getting 300 to 12,000 applicants

12:16 – ATS and AI screening tools replacing human resume review

12:48 – Using ChatGPT carefully to refine his resume while keeping his authentic voice

13:37 – Scott’s old-school plan: mailing hard-copy resumes and cover letters to targeted companies

14:27 – Host draws a parallel to nonprofit grant fundraising and the power of personal connection

15:03 – The impact of handwritten thank-you notes and direct outreach

16:34 – Why Scott’s professional network (mostly scientists) hasn’t helped his job search

17:05 – Being intentional about networking through chambers of commerce and local business groups

18:03 – How it feels day-to-day to not be fulfilled in his current role

18:41 – Scott’s current job: converting live trainings into e-learning modules

20:06 – The daily “slog” and lack of a larger sense of purpose

20:43 – How marriage and fatherhood changed Scott’s career risk tolerance

21:07 – Balancing his wife’s static optometrist income with his own career mobility

22:19 – His father’s advice about taking risks and relocating when young

23:19 – Why relocation and travel-heavy work are now off the table

24:44 – Wanting his kids to see work as energizing, not a burden

25:31 – Host shares her own experience letting her daughter see her fail and grow

27:02 – How Scott resets and stays grounded after rejection

27:34 – The online dating analogy: job searching like Match.com odds

28:34 – Focusing on “the one right match” instead of volume of offers

30:38 – Keeping the job search from consuming his whole identity

32:16 – Being proactive: rejecting job listings that aren’t the right fit before they reject you

32:19 – Host praises Scott’s healthy boundaries in the process

33:18 – The big practical takeaway: “focus on the bridge in front of you first”

34:00 – Breaking big goals into one actionable step at a time

35:04 – Struggling to celebrate wins as an overthinker

36:05 – How Scott proactively reached out to be a podcast guest mid-board-meeting

37:35 – Host on the value of proactive outreach and being a “connector”

38:47 – Final advice: notice the tasks you choose to do, not just what’s assigned

39:55 – Host’s closing thanks and encouragement to take it one bridge at a time

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