Friends with Benefits
Friends with Benefits
Podcast Description
‘Friends with Benefits’ is the essential podcast for rewards and benefits leaders.
Hosted by Carl Chapman and David Duckworth from Ben, each episode brings together top minds in benefits and HR to unpack the latest trends shaping the world of benefits. Think AI, employee engagement, ROI, and more. Expect real talk with industry innovators and bold ideas you’ll want to steal.
If you’re building better benefits, this is the podcast your CPO wishes you’d listen to.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast focuses on the complexities of employee benefits, covering themes such as the integration of AI in HR, employee engagement strategies, and the return on investment of benefit programs. Episodes include discussions on topics like mental health investment, the impact of global equity on benefits, and practical strategies for creating personalized benefits offerings.

‘Friends with Benefits’ is the essential podcast for rewards and benefits leaders.
Hosted by Carl Chapman and David Duckworth from Ben, each episode brings together top minds in benefits and HR to unpack the latest trends shaping the world of benefits. Think AI, employee engagement, ROI, and more. Expect real talk with industry innovators and bold ideas you’ll want to steal.
If you’re building better benefits, this is the podcast your CPO wishes you’d listen to.
What happens when benchmarking becomes a comfort blanket — and the industry forgets what flexibility really means?
In this episode, Christina Alliak, Director of Benefits at Cohesity, joins Carl and David to explore how the industry got tangled up in comparison reports and legacy systems, and what it’ll take to build something better. Together, they dig into the messy middle between aspiration and reality — from flexible benefits dreams and ancient insurer tech to admin overload, prevention vs. intervention, and the one mistake that taught Christina her biggest lesson about communication.
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 — Intro
03:30 — AI Everywhere (and the Boring Stuff It Should Fix)
05:00 — The Catch: How Do You Learn Without the Boring Work?
08:00 — Benchmarking Is Overrated
10:00 — The Dream of Open Data
13:00 — The Trap of Ease and Expectation
14:30 — Medical Inflation and the Benchmark Box
18:00 — Prevention Beats Intervention
20:00 — Flexibility: The Holy Grail
23:00 — The Dream Model
27:00 — The Marketplace Vision
29:00 — HR Tech, Product Thinking, and Delight
31:00 — The Hidden Cost of Admin
34:00 — Standards, APIs, and Stalemate
41:00 — What AI Needs to Work
43:00 — The Future (and AI Burnout)
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