Barefaced Chat
Barefaced Chat
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I’m Kelly Saynor, aesthetics nurse, skincare formulator, and proud founder of The Perfect Peel® and Glutaceuticals®. With over 20 years in dermatology and me...
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The show focuses on topics related to skincare, mental health, and social media influences, with episodes addressing issues like acne and autism in young people, as well as aging confidently through personal stories and expert insights.

I’m Kelly Saynor, aesthetics nurse and founder of The Perfect Peel® and Glutaceuticals. Barefaced Chat is my no-fluff podcast exploring beauty, skin, ageing, and identity with real people and experts alike. From hormones to hype, we uncover what’s really going on beneath the surface, honest, unfiltered, and always human.
In Episode 32 of Barefaced Chat, Kelly is joined by semi-permanent makeup artist and beauty-business owner Jo Kilburn.
Jo shares her journey into semi-permanent makeup, the realities of working within the industry and what clients should understand before choosing a treatment or artist.
Kelly and Jo discuss the skill, responsibility and trust involved in semi-permanent makeup, as well as the effect these treatments can have on confidence and how people feel about themselves.
Jo also talks about building The Beauty Room, running a beauty salon and navigating the challenges of growing a business while moving through difficult periods in her personal life.
The conversation explores divorce, spirituality, resilience and Jo’s next chapter as part of the Renew Wellness collective at Renew Medical Aesthetics.
Topics include:
• What semi-permanent makeup involves
• What to consider before booking a treatment
• Choosing a skilled and trustworthy artist
• Managing expectations and achieving natural results
• Beauty, identity and confidence
• Becoming a semi-permanent makeup artist
• Building and running a beauty business
• Navigating divorce and personal change
• Spirituality and trusting your intuition
• Joining the Renew Wellness collective
An honest conversation about beauty, business, confidence and the deeper human stories behind the treatments.

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