No Boxes: Just Verses

No Boxes: Just Verses
Podcast Description
No Boxes: Just Verses is where inspiring leaders reveal the songs and stories that shaped their journey. Join host Shannon Nash, a global C-suite leader, attorney, and CPA, as she goes beyond titles and trophies to explore the moments that truly defined today's top executives, entrepreneurs, and artists.Each episode is a deep dive into a guest's personal "Leadership Playlist," uncovering the pivotal lessons and life-changing moments tied to the music that moved them. From career breakthroughs to personal reinvention, we explore the authentic, unboxed stories behind extraordinary success.This isn't your typical leadership podcast. It's a rich blend of leadership development, personal storytelling, and musical discovery. Whether you're an aspiring leader, a seasoned executive, or simply a music lover, you'll find powerful insights and a vibrant community here.Come for the stories, stay for the playlist. Subscribe now and join us as we redefine leadership, one verse at a time.
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The podcast focuses on themes of leadership development, personal storytelling, and musical discovery, with episodes discussing pivotal topics such as finding purpose after setbacks, the impact of mentorship, and the intersection of career and personal life. For example, guests like Debbie Frost share insights on breaking free from career expectations, while Terri J. Vaughn discusses the power of purpose and the importance of resilience.

No Boxes: Just Verses is where inspiring leaders reveal the songs and stories that shaped their journey. Join host Shannon Nash, a global C-suite leader, attorney, and CPA, as she goes beyond titles and trophies to explore the moments that truly defined today’s top executives, entrepreneurs, and artists.
Each episode is a deep dive into a guest’s personal “Leadership Playlist,” uncovering the pivotal lessons and life-changing moments tied to the music that moved them. From career breakthroughs to personal reinvention, we explore the authentic, unboxed stories behind extraordinary success.
This isn’t your typical leadership podcast. It’s a rich blend of leadership development, personal storytelling, and musical discovery. Whether you’re an aspiring leader, a seasoned executive, or simply a music lover, you’ll find powerful insights and a vibrant community here.
Come for the stories, stay for the playlist. Subscribe now and join us as we redefine leadership, one verse at a time.
In this empowering Verses in Service episode of No Boxes: Just Verses, we sit down with Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope, CPA, documentary filmmaker, and fraud expert. Are you a leader trying to understand risk management, curious about how fraud works, or looking for the blueprint to scale your research into a globally consumable business? Dr. Pope's journey is a powerful testament to resilience, the art of turning academic passion into a public service, and why true crime is the perfect lens for teaching finance. Tune in to hear the playbook for synthesizing complex concepts into compelling stories.
Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope is a nationally recognized expert in risk, corporate governance, and audit practices. She is a published author, documentary filmmaker, and endowed full professor. Her book, Fool Me Once: Scam Stories and Secrets from the Trillion-Dollar Fraud Industry, was recognized as one of the 15 best business books of 2023 by Inc. Magazine. Dr. Pope is also the founder of the ed tech company Red Flag Mania, which uses true crime to train professionals in accounting and fraud risk management. She is a Qualified Financial Expert and a Certified Public Accountant (CPA).
Key Takeaways:
- Learn how the profound, back-to-back loss of both parents in her twenties forced Dr. Pope to rely on gospel music and deep resilience, setting a foundation that redefined how she works and moves.
- Discover how Dr. Pope successfully scaled her academic research and knowledge into a global platform (a book, a documentary, and an ed tech company) by using the universally appealing genre of true crime to explain complex accounting and auditing concepts.
- Hear the powerful lesson Dr. Pope learned by studying for the CPA Exam ten years after college: even with a PhD, technical competence is never assumed. You must be willing to re-study the basics and prove your credentials.
- Find out why organizations—large and small—still fall victim to basic fraud schemes (like the Dixon, Illinois municipal fraud). The root cause is simple: trust, and a lack of proper checks and balances, proving that human nature is still the biggest risk.
- Understand why Dr. Pope intentionally plays upbeat music (like the bonus song ”What's My Favorite Word”) before leaving the house: she channels that joy to give her the energy to be the enthusiastic, present, and successful leader she is.
Dr. Kelly Richmond Pope's journey proves that the most impactful leaders can transform complex knowledge into accessible, powerful stories. What area of your expertise can you teach the masses using a compelling new narrative?
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