Divine Konversations
Podcast Description
Divine Konversations is a heart-led podcast hosted by Deyona Kirk, where real stories meet radical healing. Centered on courageous conversations around child protection, cultural preservation, faith, and freedom, each episode uplifts Black and BIPOC voices committed to justice, healing, and community care. This is a space for truth-telling, remembering, and reclaiming what’s sacred—together.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast explores themes such as child protection, the experiences of Black families in systemic systems, cultural preservation, and community care. Notable episodes like 'How CPS Cases Really Start' delve into advocating for families within challenging bureaucracies, while 'Parenting, Protection, and the Power of Showing Up' highlights the importance of community support and discusses complex emotional experiences of parenting within a flawed system.

Divine Konversations is a heart-led podcast hosted by Deyona Kirk, where real stories meet radical healing. Centered on courageous conversations around child protection, cultural preservation, faith, and freedom, each episode uplifts Black and BIPOC voices committed to justice, healing, and community care. This is a space for truth-telling, remembering, and reclaiming what’s sacred—together.
What does it mean to belong when you’re never quite “enough” for either side? Growing up biracial in Minnesota, that question followed us into classrooms, workplaces, and even the most ordinary spaces—like the grocery store or the dentist’s office.
In this episode, it’s just the two of us—Tatianna and Tatiana, aka T²—sitting down to have a conversation we haven’t shared much about publicly: what it’s like to be biracial in Duluth, MN. Our stories are different—I grew up in an all-white adoptive family in Superior, while my co-host spent summers in Duluth before moving here permanently. But in so many ways, the threads of identity, hair, family, and belonging weave together.
We talk about code-switching before we even had the language for it, the stares and awkward questions that follow biracial kids, and how spaces like Divine Konnections have finally given us room to show up as our whole selves.
Key Themes + Takeaways
The “Where are you from?” question. How curiosity can carry an undercurrent of exclusion.
Code-switching + survival. Learning to “speak white” or minimize parts of ourselves to fit in.
Hair as identity. From relaxers and straighteners to embracing curls, and how professional spaces still police Black hair.
Family dynamics. What it means to grow up with blended, multiracial families and the assumptions strangers make.
Spaces of belonging. How Divine Konnections has created a home where we can bring our whole selves without apology.
Advice to our younger selves. “It’s going to be okay. You are enough.”
Pull Quotes
“Sometimes I shut down the part of me that’s a woman of color just to get my point across in white spaces.”
“My favorite answer when people ask about my braids? A random number. It keeps them guessing.”
“If you didn’t feel like you belonged before, this is the space where you do.”
“I can be professional with my natural hair, my nails, my lashes—or without any of it. I am still enough.”
“It’s okay to be different. It’s okay to talk different, act different, look different. You are enough.”
Chapter Markers
00:00 – Growing up biracial in Minnesota
06:10 – The “Where are you from?” question
10:01 – Code-switching + survival in white spaces
12:35 – The hair conversation: relaxers, braids, and respectability
20:00 – When professionalism gets tied to straight hair
23:44 – Finding belonging at Divine Konnections
27:50 – Parenting biracial kids in Duluth
35:16 – Small-town mapping + the mental weight of stares
43:10 – “Am I Black enough?” and the fight for belonging
49:30 – Spaces of empowerment + representation
56:01 – Advice we’d give our younger selves
Your Turn (Reflective CTA)
This week’s reflection: When have you felt the pressure to shrink or hide part of who you are just to fit in—and what would it look like to show up as your whole self instead?
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