In Episode 9, Jackie flips the script and interviews Steph about her journey through—and out of—the anti-violence field. Steph reflects on what drew her to the work, the realities of workplace harm within mission-driven organizations, and the moment she knew it was time to leave. Together, they explore the emotional and physical toll of staying, the mix of grief and relief that comes with stepping away, and the broader systems pushing workers out. It’s an honest conversation about burnout, healing, and what it looks like to choose yourself while still believing in the mission.

Guest Bio

Steph Klotz is a social work educator with over twenty years of experience in the field of domestic violence and a Masters of Social Work from Fordham University. During her career, Steph spent twelve years working directly with individuals and families impacted by abuse. She brings expertise in domestic violence, the impact of DV on children, case management, values and ethics in family casework, substance abuse, trauma, mental health, and cultural considerations in DV. As an educator, Steph strives to create a dynamic and engaging learning environment and values the power of connection within a classroom. Outside of the teaching space, Steph is a dog mom with a passion for social justice, the arts, cooking, and self-care.

More from the We Deserve Better Project

* We Deserve Better Project website

* WDBP Assessment Key Findings

* Get Involved with the WDBP

* What Works: Insights for Thriving Anti-Violence Organizations

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Show Credits

Host: Jackie Strohm

Guest: Steph Klotz

Producers: We Deserve Better Project team

Editor: Mo Lewis

Graphic Designers: Merlin Paton-Usry & Jackie Strohm

Social Media Manager: Jackie Strohm

Music: Breathe In by Sappheiros

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