The Fifth Gait Podcast
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Welcome to the Fifth Gait Podcast:We ( Carrie Hill & Mackenzie Durbin ) have thrown around the idea of a podcast for years - but we finally made it happen, stuck in the truck together on a 10-hour road trip home from a horse show.Our passion is the Icelandic horse - and all aspects of the worldwide community that surrounds this breed. Here, we come together as equestrian professionals to share our hardest lessons, biggest wins and our future hopes in Icelandic horsemanship.Our conversations aim to educate, inspire and grow all people like us, who love Icelandic horses - from enthusiasts and amateurs, to trainers, competitors and field specialists.Our topics cover all things care practices, training systems, Icelandic horse history, sport competition, breeding and much more.Join us! On The Fifth Gait PodcastWatch Us On YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@TheFifthGaitPodcastFollow Us On Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/fifthgaitpodcast
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This podcast covers a variety of themes centered around Icelandic horses, including care practices, training systems, history, sport competition, and breeding. For example, episodes may tackle topics such as maturing as a trainer, the philosophical lessons learned from horses, and the evolving nature of horsemanship.

Welcome to the Fifth Gait Podcast:
We ( Carrie Hill & Mackenzie Durbin ) have thrown around the idea of a podcast for years – but we finally made it happen, stuck in the truck together on a 10-hour road trip home from a horse show.
Our passion is the Icelandic horse – and all aspects of the worldwide community that surrounds this breed. Here, we come together as equestrian professionals to share our hardest lessons, biggest wins and our future hopes in Icelandic horsemanship.
Our conversations aim to educate, inspire and grow all people like us, who love Icelandic horses – from enthusiasts and amateurs, to trainers, competitors and field specialists.
Our topics cover all things care practices, training systems, Icelandic horse history, sport competition, breeding and much more.
Join us! On The Fifth Gait Podcast
Watch Us On YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@TheFifthGaitPodcast
Follow Us On Instagram! https://www.instagram.com/fifthgaitpodcast
In this episode of The Fifth Gait Podcast, we sit down with Patrick Sullivan of Gamilah Unbridled, a renowned liberty trainer and brideless rider best known for his incredible cross-country ride from California to Kentucky on his horse Gamilah. Patrick shares how he discovered liberty horsemanship, the lessons he’s learned from rescue horses, and why freedom within boundaries builds deeper trust and connection.
We dive into:
- How Patrick’s journey into liberty training began and why it reshaped his approach to horses.
- The role of faith and core values in his horsemanship and business.
- The unique strengths (and challenges) of working with Icelandic horses compared to other breeds.
- Insights from rescue horse rehabilitation and what owners can do to prevent horses from ending up in rescues.
- Why true liberty is about giving horses freedom to think while still providing structure.
Whether you’re passionate about liberty training, interested in Icelandic horses, or simply want to hear inspiring stories of partnership between horses and people, this conversation is packed with practical wisdom and heartfelt reflections.
👉 Tune in and discover why Patrick believes liberty is the foundation for all disciplines—and how it can transform the way we connect with our horses.

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