Legwork
Legwork
Podcast Description
Legwork is a podcast that celebrates the unseen efforts that keep the sport of running moving forward. We go behind the scenes with club leaders, race directors, and running community organizers to uncover the work that keeps us on the roads and trails. We talk to coaches to understand the evolving science of how we train, and we recognize the effort built into all the miles that come before we lace up for the starting line.
What matters isn’t always visible. Explore what lies beyond the shortcuts.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast focuses on various themes such as coaching methods, the impact of community in running, and the evolving dynamics of women in the sport. Specific episodes include in-depth analyses of training plans and conversations about the representation of female coaches like in the episode with Alison Wade, addressing societal and institutional challenges in running.

Legwork is a podcast that celebrates the unseen efforts that keep the sport of running moving forward. We go behind the scenes with club leaders, race directors, and running community organizers to uncover the work that keeps us on the roads and trails. We talk to coaches to understand the evolving science of how we train, and we recognize the effort built into all the miles that come before we lace up for the starting line.
What matters isn’t always visible. Explore what lies beyond the shortcuts.
A practical look at how music affects running performance, from cadence and perceived effort to mood, motivation, and the messy science behind your favorite pump song.
Narrative Summary
A playlist can feel like a secret weapon, a pacer, a distraction, or a trap. One song can settle you down. Another can make you surge too early. A beat can pull your stride into rhythm without you realizing it.
Matt, Molly, and Alex explore the strange and useful space where music meets running: not just as motivation, but as something that can influence cadence, effort, mood, and movement. They look at what the research can tell us, where it falls short, and why the most important variable might still be the person wearing the headphones.
The answer is not as clean as “music makes you run faster.” The more interesting answer is that the right song, at the right rhythm, for the right runner, might help you move better, feel better, or hang on a little longer.
Episode Description
In this episode of Legwork, Matt and Molly are joined by Alex of the Allie G Show to explore how music affects running performance. They start with the songs that get them moving, then dig into what the research says about cadence, perceived effort, mood, motivation, efficiency, and the role music can play when running starts to get hard.
Together, they cover:
- How runners use music differently for workouts, races, long runs, and late-race survival
- Why tempo, beat strength, volume, familiarity, and personal preference all matter
- How music can influence cadence, rhythm, and movement synchronization
- What rate of perceived exertion means, and why music may make the same effort feel easier
- The difference between music as motivation, music as distraction, and music as a pacing tool
- Why self-selected music often matters more than a generic pump-up song
- What studies on music and running performance actually show, and where the research gets messy
- Why treadmill studies, small sample sizes, short testing windows, and hard-to-blind designs limit what we can confidently say
- How runners might use music strategically without becoming dependent on it
Along the way, they talk about Harry Styles, movie soundtracks, pop punk eras, metronomes, race playlists, groovability, and the danger of over-optimizing something that is supposed to help you enjoy the run.
Whether you race with headphones, save music for mile 20, use it to survive the treadmill, or prefer to run with nothing but your own thoughts, this episode will help you understand what music can and cannot do for your running.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and personal pump song selections by Matt, Molly, and Alex
10:35 High-level buckets of scientific impact music has on performance
13:49 Variables in music that have been studied as potentially impacting running performance
20:45 Additional thoughts on future research directions and musical elements not covered in studies
29:45 The impact of music on cadence
36:01 Understanding rate of perceived exertion, heart rate, and mood
41:48 Metrics and methods that were not as commonly assessed, plus reactions to findings
45:21 Limitations of music studies in sports and additional questions that could have been asked
55:25 The impact of music on performance in numbers
01:05:11 Key learnings from music and exercise studies
01:09:37 Interesting observations from studies on how music impacts performance that may not have practical use
01:19:02 Personal reflections on music in running, and whether Matt, Molly, or Alex will incorporate any findings in their own running
Songs referenced:
Scatman by Scatman John
As it Was by Harry Styles
I'm Shipping Up to Boston by Dropkick Murphys
We Take Care Of Our Own by Bruce Springsteen
No Time For Caution (Interstellar) by Hanz Zimmer
Sk8er Boi by Avril Lavigne
Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic by The Police
Fire and Rain by James Taylor

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