Dark Night Podcast
Dark Night Podcast
Podcast Description
Join tap dance artist Andrew Nemr and pastor Mike Freeman as they explore Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross. This common human experience strips away what we use to orient ourselves in the world, often leaving us feeling lost and confused-but also inviting us to endure. These conversations were part of Andrew's preparation for a 12-hour improvised tap dance performance. The podcast is part of the Dark Night Project presented by Nemr Institute and KalosWorks.org, made possible by generous partners and supporters.
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The podcast focuses on spiritual growth, personal disorientation, and community, with episodes delving into works like St. John of the Cross's Dark Night of the Soul. Specific episodes, including discussions on the importance of navigating personal darkness and reflections on Psalm 22, highlight how challenges can lead to profound spiritual insights.

Join tap dance artist Andrew Nemr and pastor Mike Freeman as they explore Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross. This common human experience strips away what we use to orient ourselves in the world, often leaving us feeling lost and confused-but also inviting us to endure. These conversations were part of Andrew’s preparation for a 12-hour improvised tap dance performance. The podcast is part of the Dark Night Project presented by Nemr Institute and KalosWorks.org, made possible by generous partners and supporters.
In this final episode, Andrew and Mike conclude their journey with an “unfinished ending.” Drawing on excerpts from the Old Testament’s Song of Songs , they explore how desire, delay, and detachment, are shaped by the stripping of the mantle, mortification, and the refusal to settle for comfort on our terms. Andrew’s insights from the 12-hour Dark Night Live performance and Mike’s description of a potter’s work offer further metaphor. Together they explore how bearing witness, persevering without instant answers, and having a steady yes forms us toward the summit: union with divine love.
Book II chapters 22-25
00:00 Introduction to The Dark Night Podcast
01:20 The Nature of Endings and Continuations
04:37 Reflections on Transformation and Possibility
10:39 Exploring the Song of Songs
20:23 The Role of Suffering and Companionship
30:53 Unresolved Storylines in Chapter Five
33:07 The Potter's Metaphor
38:02 Spiritual Formation and Dark Night of the Soul
41:28 The Role of Love in Spiritual Journeys
49:24 Endurance and Support in Dark Times
51:41 Medical Journeys and Life's Dance
57:39 Conclusion and Reflections
Related Links
Dark Night Project: www.darknightlive.com
Nemr Institute: www.nemrinstitute.com

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