In this special episode — and the very first filmed episode of We Should Write — Lindsay Lawler sits down with Kassie and Ben of the Americana duo Goldpine for a conversation that goes far beyond songwriting.

Lindsay first met Kassie years ago during the wild Broadway days in Nashville, when Kassie was singing downtown and Ben was running sound at The Listening Room. Today, the two are 16 years into marriage, traveling the world together and creating music side by side as a husband-and-wife duo.

What unfolds in this conversation is less about the music business and more about the deeper places songwriting can come from. Kassie shares about losing a parent and how grief, memory, faith, and healing eventually find their way into the songs we write and the lives we build.

Together they explore the idea that the stories we carry from childhood, family, and loss often become the very things that shape our creativity—and sometimes even help us make peace with our past.

Goldpine also performs two songs live in this intimate episode, and hearing them acoustically is something else entirely. Kassie’s voice, paired with the songwriting she and Ben create together, has a kind of control and emotional pull that can feel almost mind-bending. It’s the kind of performance that makes you realize these two were meant to be creating music together.

More than a songwriter interview, this conversation touches on creativity, spirituality, marriage, and the quiet realization that the hardest parts of our lives often become the stories that help us grow.