Beyond All the Sharks
Beyond All the Sharks
Podcast Description
Beyond All the Sharks is the companion podcast to the Netflix show All the Sharks. Hosted by the science team featured in the series, we - the Shark Docs - go beyond the screen to talk with local researchers and conservationists working on the front lines in each magnificent location featured on the show. From deep-sea fisheries to community-led shark protection, each episode reveals the real stories behind sharks and rays in some of the most biodiverse marine ecosystems on the planet.
Learn with us—dive in!
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The podcast focuses on marine conservation, shark ecology, and the intersection of local communities with biodiversity efforts, featuring episodes such as the exploration of ecotourism in the Maldives and sustainable fishing practices, alongside in-depth discussions about shark-human interactions and community engagement in conservation efforts.

Beyond All the Sharks is the companion podcast to the Netflix show All the Sharks. Hosted by the science team featured in the series, we – the Shark Docs – go beyond the screen to talk with local researchers and conservationists working on the front lines in each magnificent location featured on the show. From deep-sea fisheries to community-led shark protection, each episode reveals the real stories behind sharks and rays in some of the most biodiverse marine ecosystems on the planet.
Learn with us—dive in!
For more information, visit our website: www.sharkdocs.org
With its major domestic and international fishing fleets and cultural emphasis on seafood, Japan's policies and practices ripple across every ocean. Understanding how sharks move through these, and neighboring, markets, kitchens, and even pet food is essential to addressing the global shark mortality crisis.
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Shelley Clarke, an independent fisheries consultant with decades of experience working inside the systems that govern shark catch and trade worldwide. From her early career as a fisheries observer to her ongoing work with Regional Fisheries Management Organizations (RFMOs) , Shelley offers a rare insider perspective on how shark policy succeeds and where it falls short.
Join us for a nuanced, honest look at one of the most complex fronts in global shark conservation and what everyday people can do to push things forward.
Thanks to:📸 Andy Murch – www.sharksandrays.org | YouTube: @bigfishexpeditions8233 | IG: @bigfishexpeditions📸 Shelley Clarke
🔗 Follow us for more shark science and ocean stories:📸 Instagram: @shark_docs🎯 www.sharkdocs.org
OUTLINE
0:00 – Intro to Japan, Global Shark Conservation, & Dr. Shelley Clarke
02:45 – Fisheries Observer Program & Career Path
08:55 – Japanese Culture & Relationship to Seafood and Conservation
22:19 – Japan's Diving Industry & Wildlife
27:22 – Healthy Seafood: Mercury & Fukushima
29:29 – Shark In Food for People & Pets
32:30 – Cultural Values towards Seafood
35:50 – Shark Finning, No-Retention Measures, Transshipment, & Mortality
47:10 – Shark Meat, Landings Records & Reporting
50:05 – Illegal, Unreported, and Unregulated Fishing (IUU)
53:30 – Shark Trade & CITES
59:35 – Solving Excessive Shark Mortality
1:05:49 – Making a Difference in Everyday Life
1:08:30 – Inner Workings of RFMO Meetings
1:16:20 – Small Steps Towards Conservation Success
1:20:30 – Research Advice for Grad Students
1:22:35 – Outro
Relevant Literature & Resources
🌐 Guest
Dr. Shelley Clarke – www.sasamaconsulting.com
⚠️ Conservation Status
Dulvy et al., 2024 – https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.adn1477
Dulvy et al., 2026 – https://www.nature.com/articles/s44358-025-00120-2
🚫 Shark Fin Bans & No-Retention
Ferretti et al., 2020 – https://doi.org/10.1111/conl.12708
Worm et al., 2024 – https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.adf8984
Feitosa et al., 2025 – https://doi.org/10.1111/faf.12892
Gilman et al., 2016 – https://doi.org/10.1002/aqc.2599
Tolotti et al., 2015 – https://doi.org/10.1016/j.gecco.2015.05.003
Clarke et al., 2012 – https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1523-1739.2012.01943.x
🔍 Shark Fins, Trade, & CITES
Cardeñosa et al., 2018 – https://doi.org/10.1111/conl.12457
Cardeñosa et al., 2023 – https://doi.org/10.1111/acv.12864
Cardeñosa, 2019 – https://doi.org/10.1007/s10592-019-01221-0
Fields et al., 2025 – https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10592-025-01714-1
Fowler et al., 2021 – https://bfn.bsz-bw.de/frontdoor/deliver/index/docId/7/file/Skript607.pdf
Bond et al., 2025 – https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2025.106733
Clarke et al., 2006 – https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1461-0248.2006.00968.x
🥩 Shark Meat Trade
Ospina-Álvarez et al., 2025 – https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2025.106659
MacNeil et al., 2025 – https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.04.24.650194v1.abstract
Okes & Sant, 2019 – https://sharks.panda.org/images/downloads/327/TRAFFIC_Top_20_Shark_Catchers__Traders_2019_1.pdf
Ryburn et al., 2025 – https://doi.org/10.3389/fmars.2025.1604454
Dent and Clarke, 2015 – https://www.proquest.com/openview/3b5c990099f5140bc44e63e7e691e271/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=237320
🎣 Bycatch & Fisheries Management
Crespo et al., 2024 – https://doi.org/10.1111/cobi.14324
Cronin et al., 2023 – https://doi.org/10.1111/faf.12710
Galland et al., 2018 – https://doi.org/10.1016/j.marpol.2017.10.029

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