What happens when following God means leaving behind everything familiar?

In this episode of In the Woods, Pete and Sarah sit down with Deline to hear the story that brought her and her husband, Crae, from South Africa to Michigan and ultimately to Woodland Church.

Deline shares how her faith became personal as a teenager, how an unexpected step into ministry became a calling that has shaped more than 20 years of her life, and what it looked like for their family to wrestle with God’s leading through uncertainty, loss, transition, and a move across the world. They also talk honestly about serving in ministry as a married couple, learning to trust God when the destination isn’t clear, and finding your roots in Christ when life refuses to stay settled.

The conversation turns to Deline’s first message at Woodland’s Marshall Campus from Matthew 12 and a powerful picture of Jesus’ compassion. When surrounded by people and their needs, Jesus didn’t simply see a crowd. He saw individuals. How do we follow His example when we’re already overwhelmed ourselves? Sometimes ministry isn’t about fixing someone’s problem. Sometimes it’s simply about showing up, seeing the person in front of us, and being present.

A thoughtful conversation about calling, change, trusting God in uncertainty, compassion, and what it means to follow Jesus wherever He leads.