Joni McGary Talks with People
Joni McGary Talks with People
Podcast Description
A podcast exploring how to navigate life when trust in institutions, media, and conventional wisdom has faltered. Join me as I engage with guests across a wide variety of topics, all connected by a central thread:
In this chaotic landscape, how do you create a life of genuine happiness, health, and meaning? How do you move from cynicism to wisdom, from anxiety to freedom? jonimcgary.substack.com
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The podcast focuses on navigating life amidst declining trust in institutions, media, and traditional wisdom, with themes including personal freedom, the impacts of technocracy, Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs), and misinformation. Episodes feature discussions around complex topics like the implications of the GENIUS Act and practical advice on cultivating happiness and meaningful existence in challenging times.
Joni McGary Talks with People is for anyone who’s lost all faith in institutional narratives and theatrics and is wondering how to actually live well right now. Host Joni McGary (co-founded No College Mandates) has real conversations with researchers, doctors, writers, artists, and independent thinkers about everything from medical freedom and pandemic policies to beauty, craft, community, and what it means to rebuild relationships and society when trust has been crushed. It’s thoughtful, relaxed, with no frenzied spin—just genuine talks with interesting people who know things.
I sat down again with researcher and author Debbie Lerman (The Deep State Goes Viral), who always teaches me something new and opens my mind. She argues that the COVID resistance wasn’t a partisan movement, but a true populist civil rights movement concerned with freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and freedom of movement — all of them gutted by states of emergency that remain legally in place to this day. Even more disturbing is that those same legal frameworks are now being quietly expanded and repurposed under new states of emergency declared by the current administration. Debbie and I dig into why the medical freedom coalition was always a target for fracture, how the MAHA movement functioned as a pressure-release valve for genuine populist anger, and why entering the system even with the best of intentions, may be the fastest way to lose your voice and leverage. We had a broad conversation about power, selective resistance, and why it is crucial to keep fighting for constitutional rights precisely when “your team” has their hands on the levers of power.
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Find Debbie Lerman on Substack: DebbieLerman.substack.com
Find Debbie’s Book: The Deep State Goes Viral: Pandemic Planning and the Covid Coup
David Hughes (coined the “three camps” referenced in our conversation) Find his book here: “Covid-19,” Psychological Operations, and the War for Technocracy
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