Heart of the Brand
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Heart of the Brand is where leading HR and talent leaders share the tactical frameworks they use to build exceptional cultures and high-performing teams. VPs of People and Chief People Officers unpack proven playbooks for scaling culture, compensation design, and people operations - delivering actionable insights that sophisticated practitioners can immediately implement.
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The podcast covers a range of topics focused on human resources and talent management, including building mission-driven cultures, developing adaptable hiring frameworks, and integrating AI strategies in talent acquisition. Episodes like 'The Mission-Driven Performance Trap Most CPOs Fall Into' and 'Why (and How) aware® Built Two Different Cultures' delve into specific challenges faced by CPOs and innovative solutions for scaling operations and maintaining cultural integrity.

Heart of the Brand is where leading HR and talent leaders share the tactical frameworks they use to build exceptional cultures and high-performing teams. VPs of People and Chief People Officers unpack proven playbooks for scaling culture, compensation design, and people operations – delivering actionable insights that sophisticated practitioners can immediately implement.
Thomas Kohler, founder and CEO of pplwise, turned a moment of professional crisis into a data-driven recruiting business that now runs 45 specialized recruiters, generates €5M in revenue with €900K EBITDA, and is targeting €100M in the next 15 years. At 25, he was fired from a startup where he’d helped grow the talent function from 5 to 150 people — and within months, that same founder called him back to hire 150 engineers in two months to build a payment infrastructure that would unlock €50 million in revenue. That moment revealed how structurally broken most companies are with data. Thomas built pplwise around fixing that — and the result is a proprietary intelligence methodology that gathers 100-200 interview data points per week, benchmarks hiring funnels across companies, and tells clients not just what isn’t working, but exactly why.
Topics Discussed
- pplwise business model: renting specialized recruiters by function, region, language, and industry expertise
- Primary focus: Germany and DACH region, with international expansion for German-speaking go-to-market hires and US companies entering Germany
- pplwise Intelligence: 100-200 interview data points gathered weekly, funnel benchmarks by role and region, anonymized reports
- ISO 27001 compliance and three-layer data permission process (company agreement, candidate opt-in, access rights management)
- Red flag #1: Complex take-home case studies — comfortable for the hiring team but systematically filters out passive, employed top candidates
- Red flag #2: Unclear role requirements — can extend time-to-source from 3 weeks to 12 weeks or more
- Red flag #3: Post-raise unrealistic expectations — 700 candidate funnels for one hire, five-day in-office mandates with no brand equity to back them up
- TA funnel benchmarks: 12-15 TA screens per hire is healthy; 25-35 if take-home case study exists
- Three phases of time-to-hire: time to fill, time to source, time in stage — and why conflating them leads to wrong fixes
- Three biggest post-fundraise hiring mistakes: wrong role diagnosis, unrealistic expectations, no pre-built TA infrastructure
- The founding story: fired at 25, freelance recruiter, first client Tier Mobility (pre-Series D), then 150 engineers in 2 months → €25-30K/month personal transformation
- Four years in, 40 employees, €3.8M last year → growing, and why focus on German-speaking sales hires drove fastest growth
- 2026 goals: maintain €900K EBITDA on higher revenue; establish NPS baseline and push above 50
- Thomas’s 3 hiring traits: framework/data-driven, collaborative-oriented, freedom + ownership
- Annual 2-3 month “sabbatical” working one day per week — an organizational resilience test, not just personal recharge
- 2026 personal goal: let the organization own finance decisions and service development without Thomas’s involvement
- Self-knowledge insight: pre-founding psychology session revealed competitive drive — consciously channeled to sport, not business

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