Barbara Barrilleaux is the VP of Legal and General Counsel at Brooks Running, the performance running brand owned by Berkshire Hathaway. She leads a 15-person global legal team covering everything from IP and contracts to compliance and privacy across 50+ countries. A former competitive swimmer and former IP litigator, Barbara has guided Brooks through more than a decade of serious growth, including the company's best quarter ever.

Barbara gets specific about what it takes to run lean legal at a high-growth consumer brand: how she triages contracts by spend, IP exposure, and data risk; how Berkshire Hathaway's long-term ownership model gives her team room to operate; and what she learned from the scariest moment of her career, when a frivolous lawsuit in a foreign country froze the company's bank accounts overnight. She also shares how active listening helped her catch a bribery attempt early in her career, and why giving business partners context for your questions builds more trust than firing off a checklist.

Barbara plays drums in a band called the Cozy Slippers (they toured Europe pre-pandemic), and she makes a compelling case that the skills of a good bandmate and a good GC are the same: humility, listening, and keeping your ego in check.

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Show Notes:

• Berkshire Hathaway's ownership model: Brooks operates autonomously within the portfolio, giving legal the freedom to take a long-term view rather than chasing short-term results.
• Contract triage by risk: Barbara's team prioritizes contracts by dollar amount, IP involvement, data sensitivity, and security risk. Lower-risk deals get a light touch or no legal review at all.
• Frozen bank accounts abroad: A frivolous lawsuit in a foreign country led a judge to freeze all of Brooks' local bank accounts. The team leveraged Berkshire's banking relationships to route funds in and keep operations running.
• Catching a bribery attempt: Outside counsel proposed hiring a ”professor” for a foreign lawsuit. After 30 minutes of questions, a multi-million-dollar price tag with no defined scope made it clear. Barbara escalated, fired the firm, and found new counsel.
• Active listening over 20 questions: Barbara gives business partners context for why she's asking rather than firing off a checklist, and reads body language to know when to pull back.
• Source of truth obsession: One accurate system for all corporate subsidiary information, globally. No regional one-pagers that drift out of sync.
• AI as a tool, not a replacement: AI helps the team get up to speed faster in unfamiliar jurisdictions, but judgment, relationships, and listening remain irreplaceable.
• Brand mission and fulfillment: Barbara connects to Brooks' mission of health and human connection even as a non-runner, and sees that alignment as core to what makes the work meaningful.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction (01:37) Selling a physical product vs. building tech (03:49) How customer obsession shows up in legal work (05:59) What's driving double-digit growth (07:18) The craving for real-life connection (09:16) Brooks' brand messaging and Berkshire Hathaway (13:15) Finding fulfillment in a consumer brand's mission (14:15) Inside the Berkshire Hathaway shareholders meeting (16:40) Authenticity in the age of AI (18:16) Supply chain disruption and oil-based materials (20:54) Scariest career moment: frozen bank accounts (24:23) Getting through a crisis with relationships (27:15) Preparing for the unpredictable in new markets (29:16) Advice to yourself in a crisis moment (32:56) Building the team and managing outside counsel (36:58) Contract triage: what to review and what to skip (39:00) Knowledge management and the source of truth problem (42:40) Catching a bribery attempt as a junior lawyer (44:42) Active listening as a leadership accelerant (46:44) Avoiding the ”20 questions guy” (50:49) AI predictions: tool, not replacement (53:23) Lightning round: books, bands, and bandmate skills (54:17) Closing

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