“We’re seeing the rise of a new persona that uses our products, the autonomous agent. That means we need to design for them, too. Agent Experience (AX) is about creating products that agents can navigate, integrate with, and orchestrate effectively.”

In this episode, Matt Biilmann, CEO and co-founder of Netlify, joins Ankit Jain, founder of Aviator, to unpack the next evolution in software: agent experience.

Matt, known for coining the term Jamstack, shares how AI is transforming the way we build for the web, making almost everyone a web developer. From Agent Experience (AX) to open vs. closed agent ecosystems, he explains how autonomous agents will reshape software development and why he thinks we are just entering the decade of agents.

00:00 Introduction to Developer Experience and AI
03:00 The Evolution of Coding and Development
06:07 The Impact of AI on Software Development
09:59 Understanding Agent Experience (AX)
13:40 The Future of Human and Agent Collaboration
17:50 Open vs. Closed Systems in Development
21:50 Simplicity in Development Frameworks
25:31 The Role of Agents in Web Development
29:34 Predictions for the Future of Development

About Matt Billmann

Matt Billmann is CEO of Netlify, a company he co-founded in 2014. He has been building developer tools, content management systems, and web infrastructure for more than 30 years and is recognized for coining the term “Jamstack.”

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