Kicking Cancer's Ass
Kicking Cancer's Ass
Podcast Description
Each episode brings you insightful interviews with leading innovators, transforming cancer care, and people whose lives are transformed by their cancer journey. You'll be motivated, you'll be inspired, you'll be amazed. This is where all of us, whether we are facing cancer or not, rewrite the narrative from victim to victor, from surviving to thriving.
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Content Themes
Focuses on cancer care innovation, survivor stories, and personal transformation, with episodes addressing screening awareness and the intersection of humor and resilience in cancer journeys, such as the stories of Ami Tully Lotka and Dr. Peter Kuhn's insights on early detection.

Kicking Cancer’s Ass is the weekly podcast giving cancer survivors, patients, and caregivers hope and power through stories, strategies, and science.
Two Stages. Same Silence.
A few months into her Stage 4 lung cancer treatment, Annabelle Gurwitch’s son came home from college and found her unconscious on the bathroom floor.
She’d been on the recommended dose of her targeted therapy. She’d known for weeks it was unlivable. She hadn’t told her doctor. She thought tolerating it was what a good patient did.
I knew Annabelle’s book before I knew her story. The End of My Life Is Killing Me: The Unexpected Joys of a Cancer Slacker is the funniest, most honest, and most useful thing I have read about living with an incurable diagnosis. Annabelle has been kicking lung cancer’s ass at Stage 4 for five years, on a targeted therapy she was told would stop working in eighteen months. She is alive because she spoke up. She calls herself a cancer slacker, not a cancer warrior. The phrase is funnier than it is, and more serious than it sounds.
What I did not expect, walking into the conversation, was how much of her experience I recognized in mine. I had Stage 2A breast cancer, called my treatment my cancer obliteration project, built a spreadsheet by the second round of chemo to stay ahead of side effects, and still found myself filtering in person. Two different stages. Two different prognoses. Same self-silencing.
In the deep-dive for paid subscribers: what the FDA is finally doing about a fifty-year-old assumption in cancer drug dosing, why the rules that determine who gets lung cancer screened are medical sex discrimination, why lung cancer research is funded at a fraction of its mortality burden, and the spreadsheet. It’s free at joellekaufman.com.
Topics Discussed
The reframe that replaced “live like you’re dying”
Stamtisch and the German word for Sunday joy
Why “warrior” didn’t fit. “Slacker” did.
The night her son found her on the bathroom floor
Why she’s been at half the recommended dose for five years
Big wellness, the sugar myth, and emergency chocolate
The class action against pharmacy benefit managers
The one piece of advice no one expected
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