Jung At Harp
Jung At Harp
Podcast Description
Jung at Harp – Where Music and Psyche Meet
Join us most Fridays at 9:15 AM ET for Jung at Harp—a weekly conversation between composer Deborah Henson-Conant and Jungian analyst Kathleen Wiley exploring the deep connection between music, psychology, and self-expression.
This series isn’t about teaching, selling, or proving anything. It’s about curiosity, exploration, and the art of conversation. What happens when a psychoanalyst and a musician discuss creativity, freedom, and the human experience? New ideas unfold, perspectives shift, and deeper understanding emerges.
Jung at Harp began as a simple car ride conversation—one that neither wanted to end. Now, it’s an ongoing dialogue, shared with the world, about how music and the mind shape each other and transform our lives.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast covers themes centered around creativity, psychology, and personal growth, with episodes focusing on topics such as the undiscovered self, the relationship between freedom and creativity, and the impact of trauma on artistic expression. For example, episodes delve into the creative process through principles like Impulse and Structure, while also examining concepts like shame, identity transformation, and emotional healing.

Jung at Harp – Where Music and Psyche Meet
Join us most Fridays at 9:15 AM ET for Jung at Harp—a weekly conversation between composer Deborah Henson-Conant and Jungian analyst Kathleen Wiley exploring the deep connection between music, psychology, and self-expression.
This series isn’t about teaching, selling, or proving anything. It’s about curiosity, exploration, and the art of conversation. What happens when a psychoanalyst and a musician discuss creativity, freedom, and the human experience? New ideas unfold, perspectives shift, and deeper understanding emerges.
Jung at Harp began as a simple car ride conversation—one that neither wanted to end. Now, it’s an ongoing dialogue, shared with the world, about how music and the mind shape each other and transform our lives.
Jung at Harp – Episode 223 Why “Perfect” is Killing Your Music
Many harpists believe they need to master every note, technique, and piece perfectly before they are ready to share their music with others.
But what if the pursuit of perfection is actually keeping you from making music?
In Episode 223 of Jung at Harp, Kathleen Wiley and Deborah Henson-Conant explore how the pressure to play perfectly can create a constant feeling of “I’m not good enough yet.” Instead of experiencing music as a form of self-expression, we can become focused on avoiding mistakes, following the rules, and trying to sound like we think we are supposed to sound.
This episode invites us to look beyond perfection and discover what becomes possible when we allow ourselves to play, explore, experiment, and express ourselves with the skills we have right now.
In this episode:
- Why the pursuit of perfection can keep musicians stuck
- The difference between playing correctly and expressing yourself
- How the fear of mistakes affects creativity
- Why you don’t have to be “good enough” before sharing your music
- Finding beauty in simplicity
- Moving from judgment to curiosity
- How limitations can become opportunities for creativity
- Giving yourself permission to discover your own musical voice
🎵 Your music doesn’t have to be perfect to be meaningful.
Sometimes the most powerful music comes when we stop asking, “Did I play that perfectly?” and start asking, “What can I express with what I have right now?”
💬 Question for you:
Has the pursuit of perfection ever stopped you from playing or sharing your music? What would change if you gave yourself permission to simply explore?
🎼 About Jung at Harp
Jung at Harp brings together Jungian psychology, music, creativity, and the human experience through conversations between Kathleen Wiley and Deborah Henson-Conant.
Each episode explores questions that invite us to look deeper, think differently, and discover new possibilities in ourselves and our creative lives.
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