Inverted Product Management Podcast
Inverted Product Management Podcast
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This podcast series explores topics related to the creation and use of product in the areas of Security, privacy, online safety, infrastructure security etc. We call these people Inverted Product people because the primary goals for these product people are somehow inverted: success is "when nothing happens". There are fundamental differences in metrics, strategies, personas, communication, and road mapping from the ones of “traditional product teams”
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The show delves into unique topics surrounding security product management, such as the Critical Attacker Journey, the measurement of 'badness' in systems, and the contrast between user engagement and threat prevention. Episodes provide actionable insights, with examples such as the phases of an attacker journey and the concept of the Invisible Line in metrics.

This podcast series explores topics related to the creation and use of product in the areas of Security, privacy, online safety, infrastructure security etc. We call these people Inverted Product people because the primary goals for these product people are somehow inverted: success is “when nothing happens”. There are fundamental differences in metrics, strategies, personas, communication, and road mapping from the ones of “traditional product teams”
🎙️Inverted Product Management Podcast #8: Social Engineering – The Human Factor in Security🎙️
In this episode of the Inverted Product Management Podcast, hosts Jeroen Kemperman, Dana Kaufman, Dario Salice, and Tom Williamson dive deep into the world of social engineering and its impact on modern security practices. The panel shares real-world stories—from SIM swap scams to high-profile breaches—illustrating how attackers exploit human vulnerabilities rather than technical flaws.Key topics include:
- What social engineering is and why it’s so effective
- How attackers use urgency, pressure, and personal interaction to bypass security
- The importance of defense-in-depth and minimizing human decision points in critical flows
- Strategies for organizations to educate employees and build resilience against social engineering
- The evolving role of AI in both defending and attacking security systems
Whether you’re a product manager, security professional, or just curious about the human side of cybersecurity, this episode offers practical insights and actionable advice to help you protect your organization from the weakest link: people.🎧Listen, learn, and join the conversation!🎧Find us on LinkedIn, Spotify, YouTube, Amazon Music/Audible, and leave a message with your thoughts or questions.
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