Inverted Product Management Podcast
Inverted Product Management Podcast
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This podcast series explores topics related to the creation and use of product in the areas of Security, privacy, online safety, infrastructure security etc. We call these people Inverted Product people because the primary goals for these product people are somehow inverted: success is "when nothing happens". There are fundamental differences in metrics, strategies, personas, communication, and road mapping from the ones of “traditional product teams”
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The show delves into unique topics surrounding security product management, such as the Critical Attacker Journey, the measurement of 'badness' in systems, and the contrast between user engagement and threat prevention. Episodes provide actionable insights, with examples such as the phases of an attacker journey and the concept of the Invisible Line in metrics.
This podcast series explores topics related to the creation and use of product in the areas of Security, privacy, online safety, infrastructure security etc. We call these people Inverted Product people because the primary goals for these product people are somehow inverted: success is “when nothing happens”. There are fundamental differences in metrics, strategies, personas, communication, and road mapping from the ones of “traditional product teams”
🎙️ Episode 5: Business Models for Inverted Products – Security, Identity & Trust at Scale 🎙️In this episode of Inverted Product Management Podcast, hosts Dana, Dario, Tom, and special guest Mark Risher explore the complex business models behind security and identity products—where success often means nothing happens.From startups to global platforms, the conversation dives into:✅ The tension between speed and security in early-stage companies✅ Why naive implementations of 2FA and identity can backfire✅ How trust, privacy, and user friction shape product adoption✅ Flat pricing vs. per-user models—and the hidden costs of scale✅ The challenge of aligning growth and security teams in large organizations✅ Real-world stories of breaches, misconfigurations, and the cost of prevention
Whether you're building a consumer app, managing enterprise security, or navigating identity infrastructure, this episode offers practical insights and strategic frameworks for inverted PMs working at the intersection of safety and scale.
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This episode's special guest is Mark Risher: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrisher/ from Outgoing: https://www.linkedin.com/company/out-going/
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