Inverted Product Management Podcast
Inverted Product Management Podcast
Podcast Description
This podcast series explores topics related to the creation and use of product in the areas of Security, privacy, online safety, infrastructure security etc. We call these people Inverted Product people because the primary goals for these product people are somehow inverted: success is "when nothing happens". There are fundamental differences in metrics, strategies, personas, communication, and road mapping from the ones of “traditional product teams”
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The show delves into unique topics surrounding security product management, such as the Critical Attacker Journey, the measurement of 'badness' in systems, and the contrast between user engagement and threat prevention. Episodes provide actionable insights, with examples such as the phases of an attacker journey and the concept of the Invisible Line in metrics.

This podcast series explores topics related to the creation and use of product in the areas of Security, privacy, online safety, infrastructure security etc. We call these people Inverted Product people because the primary goals for these product people are somehow inverted: success is “when nothing happens”. There are fundamental differences in metrics, strategies, personas, communication, and road mapping from the ones of “traditional product teams”
In this episode, the hosts and guests explore the challenges and strategies of risk quantification in security and product management. The conversation covers why traditional risk labels like “low, medium, high” often fall short, and emphasizes the importance of defining exactly what risk is being measured. The panel discusses practical approaches to mapping business dependencies, understanding disruption impact, and making risk actionable for organizations.
Key topics include:
- The limitations of abstract risk ratings
- How to define and communicate risk in clear terms
- Building dependency maps to identify critical assets and processes
- The role of risk appetite and organizational culture in decision-making
- Strategies for bridging the gap between technical and business teams
- Making risk quantification actionable for leaders and operational teams
Whether you’re a security professional, product manager, or business leader, this episode offers practical insights on how to make risk management meaningful and effective.
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