In this episode of Certainty4Eternity, Rayne Orange and Minister Mark Gilbert dive deep into the Catholic and Protestant understandings of Mary, the mother of Jesus. Why do Catholics give Mary such an elevated position, and how can Protestants engage respectfully with these beliefs while keeping Christ at the centre?From early Church councils to the development of Marian dogmas, this conversation explores how devotion to Mary has shaped Catholic theology – and how the Bible invites us to see Jesus as the only true Redeemer and Mediator.Whether you’re from a Catholic background or simply curious about Christian history and theology, this episode offers clarity, empathy, and truth about one of the most discussed figures in Christianity.⏱️ Timestamps00:00 – Welcome to Certainty for Eternity00:36 – Why Catholics elevate Mary03:00 – How Protestants often misunderstand Mary05:00 – “Hail Mary” and Catholic school memories08:37 – How Catholics read Scripture through Mary11:00 – Mary as the second Eve and perfect human13:00 – Mary’s role as Mother of God and Queen of Heaven17:00 – Councils of Nicaea & Ephesus and the rise of Mariology26:00 – From divinising Christ to divinising Mary31:00 – Pope Francis and modern Marian devotion34:00 – The four Marian dogmas & the fifth proposed dogma41:00 – “Do Catholics worship Mary?” Explained47:40 – How Mary redefines the Catholic view of God48:47 – How to speak to Catholic friends about Mary52:50 – Rest in Jesus vs. devotion to Mary54:14 – Recommended reading: Leonardo De Chirico’s Mary of the Bible56:00 – Q&A: Did Jesus really have brothers?59:05 – Closing prayer & reflection🕊️ Key ThemesUnderstanding Catholic devotion to MaryThe biblical view of Mary’s role in salvationHow early Church councils shaped MariologyWhy Protestants and Catholics differ on MaryResponding with love and respect in interfaith dialogueThe supremacy of Jesus Christ as Redeemer👉🏼 Leo's Book A Christian's Pocket Guide to Mary: Mother of God? https://tinyurl.com/5yvtk6rf💬 Got a question? Leave it in the comments or DM us on socials. We might feature it in an upcoming episode! 📲 Stay Connected📸 Instagram @certainty4eternity | 📘 Facebook Certainty4Eternity👍🏼 Like this video🔔 Subscribe for fortnightly episodes💬 Comment with your questions📣 Share with friends curious about Catholicism & Christianity🔔 If this video raised questions for you about Roman Catholicism or talking with Catholic friends about Jesus, check out Mark's published resources, including ”Stepping Out in Faith”, a collection of 11 stories from former Catholics.https://matthiasmedia.com.au/search?type=product&q=mark+gilbert📖 Want to learn more about engaging conversations with Catholics and Mark's Ministry with C4E?Visit:https://encministries.org.au/ministry/ministry-to-roman-catholics/👉🏼 If you want to hear more about C4E, fill in this form to express interest in joining Mark's email list: https://tinyurl.com/bddu9nu7/#Certainty4Eternity #ChristianPodcast #MaryMotherOfGod #BiblicalTheology #CatholicVsProtestant #ChristianFaith #Apologetics #JesusSaves #TheologyTalks #FaithConversations #maryandsaints #idolatry #catholicdoctrine