The Caravan Podcast
The Caravan Podcast
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Journey with us across the Muslim world as we sit down with founders, creatives, and changemakers shaping the future of business and culture. Each episode uncovers personal stories, lessons in faith, and the realities of building something meaningful.
🎙️ New episodes every other Friday
🌍 Listen & learn more at caravanpod.com
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The show focuses on themes such as entrepreneurship, personal faith, and cultural dynamics, with episodes diving into topics like mental health challenges faced by founders, innovative tech solutions for community building, and the transformative power of faith in business. Specific episodes include discussions on the creation of the Ummah app and transitions from traditional careers to tech startups.

Journey with us across the Muslim world as we sit down with founders, creatives, and changemakers shaping the future of business and culture. Each episode uncovers personal stories, lessons in faith, and the realities of building something meaningful.
🎙️ New episodes every other Friday
🌍 Listen & learn more at caravanpod.com
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At Muslim Tech Fest in London, the Caravan Podcast interviews Saqhib Ali, founder of Zeropa, about building an interest-free microfinance alternative for essentials. Saqhib shares how hearing distressed customers while working in Lloyds’ financial distress unit inspired Zeropa’s model, why he chose not to operate as a charity to enable scale, and how the platform lends only when repayments are affordable using income/expenditure analysis, open banking, and behavioral checks. Zeropa provides 0% financing for necessities (mainly food, plus utilities, clothing, furniture, and repairs) by paying retailers directly and earning revenue via retailer rebates so customers never pay more than retail price. He discusses community poverty statistics, misconceptions that Zeropa is only for Muslims (less than 1% of applicants are Muslim), plans for UK FCA authorization and future peer-to-peer licensing, and lessons on lifelong learning and career pivots in an AI-disrupted future.
00:00 Interest and Morality
00:46 Welcome to Muslim Tech Fest
01:43 Why MTF Feels Different
03:18 Early Entrepreneur Roots
04:54 From Medicine to Banking
06:31 Distress Calls Spark Zeropa
08:49 Building Zeropa Model
13:47 Not a Charity Scale
16:37 Who Qualifies for Zero Percent
18:37 Retail Cashback Revenue
22:56 Against Buy Now Pay Later
24:23 Last Resort Lending
25:26 Food Loan Demand
26:44 Repeat Loans Rules
27:41 Pitching The Model
28:59 Muslim Community Reach
31:22 UK Regulation Plans
33:17 Growth And Underwriting
37:48 Affordability Criteria
39:28 True Zero Interest
42:18 Reinventing Yourself
43:13 Never Too Late
47:49 Where To Find Zeropa

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