ClearTech Loop: In the Know, On the Move
ClearTech Loop: In the Know, On the Move
Podcast Description
ClearTech Loop is a fast, focused podcast delivering sharp, soundbite-ready insights on what’s next in cybersecurity, cloud, and AI. Hosted by Jo Peterson, Chief Analyst at ClearTech Research, each 10-minute episode explores today’s most pressing tech and risk issues through a business-focused lens. Whether it’s CISOs rethinking cyber strategy or AI reshaping risk governance, ClearTech Loop brings clarity to a shifting landscape—built for tech leaders who don’t have time for fluff. We cut through hype. We rethink assumptions. We keep you in the loop.
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Content Themes
The podcast addresses key topics in contemporary tech and risk management, including cybersecurity innovations, cloud strategy, and AI governance. Notable episodes cover themes like positioning security as an innovation partner in 'Security as an Enabler' and quantifying cyber risk in 'CISO Playbook,' emphasizing practical strategies for engaging executive boards and effective governance.

ClearTech Loop is a fast, focused podcast delivering sharp, soundbite-ready insights on what’s next in cybersecurity, cloud, and AI. Hosted by Jo Peterson, Chief Analyst at ClearTech Research, each 10-minute episode explores today’s most pressing tech and risk issues through a business-focused lens.
Whether it’s CISOs rethinking cyber strategy or AI reshaping risk governance, ClearTech Loop brings clarity to a shifting landscape—built for tech leaders who don’t have time for fluff.
We cut through hype. We rethink assumptions. We keep you in the loop.
AI adoption is accelerating across the enterprise, often faster than governance and risk models were designed to support. Boards want innovation. Business leaders want speed. Security teams are expected to manage risk in environments where the technology itself is still evolving.
In this episode of ClearTech Loop, Jo Peterson speaks with Mustapha Kebbeh, Chief Security Officer at UKG, about why the CISO’s role in AI is not to block innovation or own governance outright, but to lead the enterprise risk conversation that enables informed decision making.
Mustapha shares how CISOs can help organizations understand what is being protected, why it matters, and what level of risk the organization is intentionally accepting as AI adoption accelerates. He also explains why effective AI governance depends on early involvement, clear guardrails, and shared ownership across the enterprise.
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In This Episode, We Cover
- Why AI does not create new risk, but accelerates existing risk
- How the CISO role is evolving from control owner to risk leader
- Why AI governance fails when security is brought in too late
- The importance of early involvement and shared ownership
- How governance enables informed decisions rather than documenting failure
Key Quotes
“Every cyber program is going to have risk.”
“But the most important piece in my mind is what is it that you are protecting.”
“The reason that’s really important is everything that touches data creates a risk management program.”
“Am I investing in the right risk.”
About the Guest
Mustapha Kebbeh is Chief Security Officer at UKG, where he leads global cybersecurity strategy, enterprise risk management, and architecture supporting more than 75,000 employees worldwide.
He has held senior security leadership roles at Brink’s, IBM, Vodafone, and CompuCom, and is known for building large-scale security programs that balance governance, resilience, and business growth. He also serves as a CISO Executive Governing Body Member and Co Chair with Evanta, a Gartner company.
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Resources Mentioned
Gartner: CISO FAQs on AI Governance and Cybersecurity Strategy
https://www.gartner.com/en/cybersecurity/cybersecurity-faqs
Webinar Replay: Building Trust Through Enhanced Security Measures (UKG)
https://www.ukg.com/learn/resources/webinar-replay/building-trust-through-enhanced-security-measures
ClearTech Loop: Simplifying Complexity in Modern Infrastructure with Dan DeBacker
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2248577/episodes/18455780

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