My guest today is Kate Raworth – renegade economist, author of Doughnut Economics, and co-founder of the Doughnut Economics Action Lab. We get into why mainstream economics leaves out ecology, inequality, and human wellbeing – and what a 21st century economic framework should look like. Kate introduces doughnut economics: a model for meeting the needs of all people within the planetary boundaries of the planet. We discuss the fictional character at the core of mainstream economics, the entrenched narratives holding us back, and how cities like Amsterdam are adopting doughnut economics to move towards a better future. 

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Timestamps:

00:00 The myth of human nature

01:05 Introducing Kate Raworth

02:18 Should we trust economists?

09:03 The power of diagrams

11:14 Inside the doughnut

15:28 Externalities and earth systems

19:24 Rational Economic Man

28:01 Distributive ownership

31:05 Beyond the capitalism vs. socialism paradigm

39:29 Our addiction to growth

43:53 From growth to thriving

46:15 Mapping our lock-ins to growth

51:35 Doughnut economics in action

01:03:18 Having kids and climate anxiety

01:08:13 Kate as a circus ringmaster

01:19:52 Conclusion

Host/Creator: Michael Mezzatesta 

Guest: Kate Raworth 

Editor: Nuria Salgado 

Designer: Amea Wadsworth