Better Future with Michael Mezz
Better Future with Michael Mezz
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Bringing you the people, projects and ideas helping steer the world toward a better future.
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The podcast focuses on themes of social justice, community organizing, and political activism, with episodes that delve into the rise of authoritarianism, the dynamics of capitalism versus environmentalism, and building community power, exemplified through discussions with guests such as Raymond Wei on grassroots movements and Aru Shiney-Ajay on climate activism.

Bringing you the people, projects and ideas helping steer the world toward a better future.
My guest today is Steven Donziger, a human rights and environmental lawyer best known for leading a historic legal case against Chevron on behalf of Indigenous communities in the Ecuadorian Amazon.
We discuss Chevron’s environmental crimes, the weaponization of the legal system, the implications of the recent $600+ million verdict against Greenpeace USA, and what all of this means for climate activism, democracy, and political resistance today.
Support the campaign to restore Steven’s law license: https://chuffed.org/campaign/standwithdonziger
Sign Greenpeace’s open letter against the Energy Transfer verdict: https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/energy-transfer-lawsuit/
Read Steven’s writing on Substack: https://substack.com/@stevendonziger
Follow Steven on social media:
Twitter: https://x.com/SDonziger
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stevendonziger/
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00:00 Chevron doesn’t want you to hear this
00:34 Introducing Steven Donziger
02:12 The legal battle against Chevron
09:05 Chevron’s power in Ecuador
11:28 Shifting the cultural narrative
17:05 The legacy of the Ecuadorian people’s win
18:59 Chevron’s retaliation strategy against Donziger
24:10 Personal struggles & resilience
27:43 House arrest & disbarment
34:40 History repeats: Energy Transfer vs. Greenpeace
39:34 The ongoing criminalization of climate advocacy
44:00 The lack of opposition & what to do about it
52:06 Elite capture & lessons from history
54:42 A movement towards democratic socialism?
58:38 Reasons for hope (& skepticism)
1:02:20 Historical examples of political transformation
1:07:06 Actions to take now
1:10:15 Self-care, resilience & solidarity
1:12:18 The campaign to restore Steven’s law license
1:14:58 Conclusion & links
Host/Creator: Michael Mezzatesta
Guest: Steven Donziger
Editor: Nuria Salgado
Designer: Amea Wadsworth
Thanks for watching episode 007. Lots more on the way :)

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