Out of the FHIR Podcast
Out of the FHIR Podcast
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The podcast explores themes related to healthcare interoperability, data management, and FHIR implementation with episodes that cover topics like the challenges of using garbage data for AI, strategies for effective FHIR education, and the foundational role of FHIR standards in improving patient care.

Talking about FHIR
Gene Vestel sits down with Michelle Skinner, Chief Clinical Executive at TeleTracking, to unpack the operational side of healthcare execution. Michelle is a nurse by background with an MBA who spent decades running emergency departments and trauma centers before moving into health-tech leadership.
In this episode, she breaks down how TeleTracking a rare, 35-year-old owner-operated pillar in a sea of PE-backed digital health firms is using computational twin technology to radically optimize hospital operations without breaking clinical workflows.
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We discuss:
* The Reality of Hospital Patient Flow: Why emergency department boarding is a symptom of systemic operational gridlock, not an ER failure.
* Computational Twins in Action: How simulating real-time capacity scenario planning can drop a hospital’s length of stay by over a full day.
* The Nursing Cognitive Load Crisis: Why AI strategies must pivot from administrative data logging to keeping nurses at the bedside.
* The Business vs. Care Matrix: How having clinical leadership embedded directly within engineering teams alters how code is written.
* The Imperative of Rural Healthcare Access: Why urban-centric health models collapse when applied to regional communities.
My 3 Biggest Takeaways from This Conversation
1. Hospital crowding is a patient flow problem, not a capacity problem
When patients are held in emergency department hallways for days, the default reaction is often to blame ER throughput or demand more physical beds. The tactical reality is that ER boarding is a lagging symptom of poor downstream operational orchestration. When a hospital cannot cleanly coordinate transitions from the post-anesthesia care unit (PACU) to intensive care or general medical floors, the entire pipeline backs up. TeleTracking’s deployment of computational twin software builds a predictive digital replica of a facility’s entire capacity landscape, running scenario trade-offs 48 hours in advance. The result isn’t just arbitrary data tracking; it’s a systematic blueprint that has driven over a 50% reduction in ED holds while simultaneously allowing hospitals to scale up overall volume.
2. If technology doesn’t actively reduce a nurse’s cognitive load, it’s a failure
While ambient listening models have made incredible strides in reducing “pajama time” and burnout metrics for physicians, the wider health-tech ecosystem has largely ignored the operational burden placed on nursing staff. Nurses have been turned into administrative traffic controllers spending critical clinical hours manually tracking down bed availability, coordinating discharge paperwork, or calling radiology to check on exam slots. We must evaluate new technology platforms through a singular, hyper-focused product lens: Does this give clinical hours back to the patient, or does it add friction to the system?. If it doesn’t systematically strip administrative steps out of the clinical loop, it shouldn’t be built.
3. Engineering teams need immediate clinical guardrails
A distinct trap for tech-first companies entering healthcare is treating healthcare metrics as abstract, unfeeling datasets or lines of code. True product maturity occurs when engineering squads have an operational bridge to the clinical frontline. Having nurses embedded directly into development processes creates a permanent shift in engineering empathy. When developers understand that a minor database lag or a clunky workflow pattern directly delays a bed placement for a critical trauma patient, the quality of execution spikes. We must build software with a human-in-the-loop mentality, ensuring code serves the explicit, real-world workflow realities of active caregivers.
Where to find Michelle Skinner & TeleTracking:
* LinkedIn:Michelle Skinner
* Website:TeleTracking
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