PDA: Resistance and Resilience
PDA: Resistance and Resilience
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Welcome to PDA: Resistance and Resilience with Marni Kammersell and Chris Wells. Join us for conversations based on lived experience that explore the pervasive drive for autonomy, also known as pathological demand avoidance (PDA). Together, we examine the emotional logic of resistance, the complexity of internal and external demands, and how to live in integrity with this way of being in the world. pdapodcast.substack.com
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The podcast focuses on the emotional dynamics of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA), exploring topics such as the lived experiences of autonomy, the tension of internal versus external demands, and reframing PDA beyond pathology. Episodes include discussions on how PDA manifests in adulthood and strategies for navigating these challenges, emphasizing personal stories and authenticity.
Welcome to PDA: Resistance and Resilience with Marni Kammersell and Chris Wells. Join us for conversations based on lived experience that explore the pervasive drive for autonomy, also known as pathological demand avoidance (PDA). Together, we examine the emotional logic of resistance, the complexity of internal and external demands, and how to live in integrity with this way of being in the world.
In episode 6, Chris and Marni talk with Becca Campbell, an ADHD PDAer raising an ADHD PDAer and the founder of Matching Sweaters Travel Company.
We discuss the unique challenges and insights that come with travel as a PDA adult and parent. Travel often means facing layers of uncertainty, shifting routines, and unexpected demands — all of which can spark resistance and anxiety.
Together, we explore:
* Why new places and disrupted routines intensify PDA responses
* Strategies for navigating travel with kids who have a pervasive drive for autonomy
* The tension between wanting adventure and needing safety and predictability
* How privilege, support, and self-awareness shape the ability to travel
* The ways travel mirrors the larger journey of life with PDA: detours, resilience, and rethinking what “success” looks like
Becca shares stories from her own experience of parenting and traveling, offering both validation and practical insight for families wondering what’s possible — and how to find autonomy even when on the road.
Becca Campbell is an ADHD PDAer raising an ADHD PDAer. She’s the founder of Matching Sweaters Travel Company, where she helps neurodivergent families plan travel rooted in strengths, interests, curiosity, and autonomy. Her upcoming book blends memoir and practical tools to support families who want to explore the world without leaving themselves behind.
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Connect with Becca Campbell:
Instagram –> @matchingsweaterstravel
Facebook –> Matching Sweaters Travel
Website –> https://matchingsweaterstravel.wordpress.com/
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