Dark Dialogue
Dark Dialogue
Podcast Description
New podcast webGiving voice to the voiceless — one case at a time.
Step into the shadows with Dark Dialogue, a longform true crime podcast committed to telling the stories that often go unheard. Hosted by John and Angela, this flagship series goes beyond headlines and into the lives of the missing, the murdered, the unidentified, and the overlooked.
Through in-depth investigation, survivor advocacy, expert analysis, and community memory, we dig deep into cold cases, stalled investigations, and systemic failures. Each episode honors the victims — not just as names or cases, but as people with stories worth telling.
Whether it’s a high-profile mystery or a forgotten file in a dusty drawer, Dark Dialogue aims to reignite attention, uncover truths, and create momentum toward justice. Because every voice deserves to be heard.log
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The podcast focuses on unresolved true crime cases, systemic failures in investigations, and survivor stories, with episodes examining specific cases like the disappearance of Maura Murray, which includes various theories around her vanishing, and the tragic murder of Candace Hiltz, exploring discrepancies in law enforcement responses and the quest for justice.

Giving voice to the voiceless — one case at a time.
Step into the shadows with Dark Dialogue, a longform true crime podcast committed to telling the stories that often go unheard. Hosted by John and Angela, this flagship series goes beyond headlines and into the lives of the missing, the murdered, the unidentified, and the overlooked.
Through in-depth investigation, survivor advocacy, expert analysis, and community memory, we dig deep into cold cases, stalled investigations, and systemic failures. Each episode honors the victims — not just as names or cases, but as people with stories worth telling.
Whether it’s a high-profile mystery or a forgotten file in a dusty drawer, Dark Dialogue aims to reignite attention, uncover truths, and create momentum toward justice. Because every voice deserves to be heard
The word “ROC” written in blood shocked investigators and the public alike. But in Part Two of The Murder of Karen Pannell, the truth emerges not from what was written on the wall — but from what the evidence refused to ignore.
In this episode, Dark Dialogue follows the case into the courtroom, where forensic science, timelines, and witness testimony dismantled the idea of a dying declaration and exposed a carefully staged crime scene. Prosecutors laid out a case built on bloodstain pattern analysis, medical testimony, DNA evidence, cell-tower data, and a collapsing alibi — while the defense fought to inject reasonable doubt through challenges to interpretation, memory, and motive.
We examine the full trial:
• The medical examiner’s testimony and why Karen could not have written “ROC”
• Bloodstain analysis proving the message was added after the attack
• DNA evidence tying Tim Permenter to a close, violent struggle — and excluding others
• Cell-tower records and eyewitness timelines that placed him at the scene through the night
• George Solomon’s account of a late-night confession and request for cover
• Tim Permenter’s decision to testify — and how jurors weighed his explanations
The episode concludes with the jury’s verdict, the death-penalty recommendation, the judge’s ultimate sentence of life without parole, and the appellate rulings that upheld the conviction. We also return to Karen — not as evidence, but as a person — in a final victim tribute that centers her life, her strength, and the cost of intimate-partner violence.
This is not a story about a word written in blood.
It is a story about control, deception, and how truth survives even the most deliberate attempts to bury it.
Original music featured in the victim tribute includes “Paper Wings” by JJ Hawk, produced by Hawk Studios, and used with permission.
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Listener discretion advised: this episode contains discussion of violent crime and graphic details.

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