Vanessa Ramos of Disability Rights California and the All People’s Health Collective joins podcast co-host Susan Li to discuss how services in California are failing to provide people with the care and supports they need and warehousing people in cruel, isolating, and coercive locked facilities instead—sometimes for years.

Vanessa looks at the lessons that can be learned from the substance use disorder (SUD) treatment system and offers a vision of organized care that holistically addresses what people actually need—a spectrum of services, resources, housing, community, family, creativity, and more—to be healthy and well.