The Other Side of the Chart
The Other Side of the Chart
Podcast Description
A podcast exploring how we design healthcare systems with patients — not just around them. Through candid conversations with patients, clinicians, and healthcare leaders, the show reveals what works, what doesn't, and what’s possible when we build systems that serve people on both sides of the chart.
Topics include patient-centered innovation, medical documentation, palliative care, and the intersection of technology, operations, and policy.
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Content Themes
The podcast explores themes of patient-centered innovation, medical documentation, palliative care, and the intersection of technology, operations, and policy, with episodes highlighting personal narratives like Dalia’s experiences as a lifelong patient and discussions on the implications of clinical documentation with guests like Dr. Kevin Larson.

A podcast exploring how we design healthcare systems with patients — not just around them. Through candid conversations with patients, clinicians, and healthcare leaders, the show reveals what works, what doesn’t, and what’s possible when we build systems that serve people on both sides of the chart.
Topics include patient-centered innovation, medical documentation, palliative care, and the intersection of technology, operations, and policy.
In this deeply personal episode, Dr. Jill Goldenberg sits down with Ruth DiPasquale—a film and television professional, longtime New Yorker, and devoted caregiver.
Ruth shares the story of her husband Stevie’s medical journey after treatment for prostate cancer led to devastating complications: severe radiation injury, repeated infections and sepsis, multiple surgeries, and years spent navigating hospitals and rehabilitation facilities.
But this conversation isn’t only about illness. It’s about the often invisible labor of caregiving—the daily advocacy, emotional resilience, and relentless vigilance required to help a loved one survive a fragmented healthcare system.
From learning to interpret lab results on her phone to spending hours at the bedside encouraging her husband to walk again, Ruth describes what it means to become a caregiver overnight—and how that experience changed both her life and her marriage.
For clinicians, policymakers, and healthcare leaders, Ruth’s story offers an unfiltered look at what care feels like from the outside of the system.
And for caregivers, it’s a reminder that the work you do—often unseen—is essential.

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