In this episode of SaviTalk, hosts David Lee and Henrique Teixeira sit down with Miguel Navarro, Head of Client Identity Verification and Authentication at KeyBank, and David Mahdi, Chief Identity Officer at Transmit Security, for a wide-ranging conversation on where identity security is headed — and what the industry is still getting dangerously wrong.

The conversation covers the industrialization of cybercrime, the uncomfortable truth that threat actors operate with the same organizational discipline as enterprises, and why the explosion of agentic AI adoption has created a security exposure most practitioners have not yet reckoned with. Mahdi draws from his years at Gartner — including his early work defining machine identity — to make the case that without clear definitions and open standards, agentic AI will repeat the same decade-long stumble the industry made with cloud. Navarro, approaching identity from the financial services frontlines, argues that bad actors are not lone hackers — they are organized, funded, and treating financial crime as one department among many.

If you work in identity, security leadership, or enterprise technology, this is one of the most honest conversations we have had on the real threat landscape and what it will take to get ahead of it. Follow SaviTalk on your preferred platform so you never miss an episode.