Claws x Code

Claws x Code
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Joi Jetson and Jey Austen cut through the noise in tech, design tools, and AI's takeover of creative work. Joi brings design engineering and UX leadership fire, while Jey delivers illustration, branding, and UI expertise with zero filter. From Figma's ambitious releases to agentic AI debates, Silicon Valley trade wars to the latest from OpenAI, Anthropic, Perplexity, Gemini and Llama - we dissect what actually matters for product design. Real talk from designers who've survived multiple tech booms and aren't easily impressed. For designers, developers, streamers and anyone who wants the unvarnished truth about where tech and creativity are heading.
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Explores a wide array of themes, including the evolution of tech booms, the societal implications of AI, hardware preferences for designers, and the latest in UI design trends, with specific episodes discussing topics like Microsoft's layoffs, the impact of expressive design in Google's Material 3, and the realities of space colonization stemming from tech advancements.

Joi Jetson and Jey Austen cut through the noise in tech, design tools, and AI’s takeover of creative work. Joi brings design engineering and UX leadership fire, while Jey delivers illustration, branding, and UI expertise with zero filter. From Figma’s ambitious releases to agentic AI debates, Silicon Valley trade wars to the latest from OpenAI, Anthropic, Perplexity, Gemini and Llama – we dissect what actually matters for product design. Real talk from designers who’ve survived multiple tech booms and aren’t easily impressed. For designers, developers, streamers and anyone who wants the unvarnished truth about where tech and creativity are heading.
Joi and Jey map the timeline of tech booms they’ve survived – from dot com to cloud computing, remote work, social video, and now AI – while discovering the next frontier is literally space. Joi’s LinkedIn deep dive uncovers Hillary Coe, SpaceX’s first Director of Design who’s now Chief Design and Marketing Officer at Vast, building the world’s first commercial space station.
From the uncomfortable truth that 90% of early internet was porn and research to social media creating the first universal use case, we trace how each boom built the foundation for the next. Joi breaks down why cloud computing enabled remote work, which enabled video social, which created the training data for AI – and now AI is accelerating space colonization.
Plus: LinkedIn as the ultimate discovery platform for finding “boss bitches” leading entire industries, why rocket design is literally rocket science, and how Vast is hiring project managers for commercial space stations. The internet evolved from research and porn to connecting everyone – now it’s taking us off-planet.
Hillary Coe’s LinkedIn about section says it all: “Emmy award-winning design leader employing bold multiplatform innovations to solve the world’s greatest challenges.” From leading visual strategy for a new era of spaceflight at SpaceX to developing long-term life in space at Vast – this is what surviving multiple tech booms looks like.
Key Topics:
- Tech boom timeline: dot com, cloud, remote work, social video, AI, space
- Hillary Coe: SpaceX’s first Design Director → Vast commercial space stations
- Internet evolution from research/porn to universal social use case
- LinkedIn as discovery platform for industry leaders
- Commercial space station development and job opportunities
- How each tech boom enables the next breakthrough
- Social media creating AI training data foundation
- Space colonization as the next tech frontier
Timestamps:
- 00:00 Tech boom timeline discussion begins
- 00:04 Dot com, cloud computing, AI boom progression
- 00:25 Cloud boom enabling remote work transition
- 00:38 Remote work requiring cloud infrastructure
- 00:45 Social media and video emergence
- 00:54 Early internet: 90% research and porn
- 01:05 Social creating universal online use case
- 01:16 Google Image Search origin: J.Lo’s dress
- 01:39 Video rise and agentic AI development
- 01:58 Software as a service expansion beyond porn
- 02:07 Internet culture timeline importance
- 02:24 Creating delightful experiences mission
- 02:38 Design collaboration: illustration vs minimalism
- 02:56 Combined creative force discussion
- 03:17 LinkedIn discovery: Hillary Coe at Vast
- 03:27 Vast: commercial space station company
- 03:44 Hillary Coe background and credentials
- 04:01 SpaceX first Director of Design role
- 04:09 Vast mission: long-term life in space
- 04:17 Moon vs space station focus
- 04:28 LinkedIn featured content exploration
- 04:35 Project manager hiring at Vast
- 04:41 Female leadership in space aviation
- 04:57 LinkedIn as discovery platform appreciation
- 05:21 AWS Bedrock learning goals
- 05:31 Figma collaboration planning
- 06:02 Episode designation and editing timeline
Source Links:
- Google Image Search History
- History of Cloud Computing
- Social Media Evolution Timeline
- Commercial Space Station Development
- Space Industry Career Opportunities
Hosts: Joi (LinkedIn discovery specialist with tech boom timeline expertise) and Jey (creative force collaborator ready for space station design projects)

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