Change Order Podcast
Change Order Podcast
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Hosted by Jason Shuman of Primary Venture Partners, Change Order explores the turning points that define today’s leading operators and investors.
Guests like Ryan Serhant, Codie Sanchez, Michael Rudin, and James O’Shaughnessy share the key inflections that shaped who they are — and how they think.
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The show explores pivotal moments in the careers of its guests, prominently focusing on trends in venture capital, fintech, and entrepreneurship, with episodes discussing topics like the evolution of real estate strategies and the integration of AI in creative processes.

Hosted by Jason Shuman of Primary Venture Partners, Change Order explores the turning points that define today’s leading operators and investors.
Guests like Ryan Serhant, Codie Sanchez, Michael Rudin, and James O’Shaughnessy share the key inflections that shaped who they are — and how they think.
Dan Mishin is the Founder and CEO of Manifest OS, an AI-native legal infrastructure platform helping lawyers double their income by eliminating non-legal work. Before Manifest, he founded June Homes and learned hard lessons about business fundamentals.
Dan and Jason discuss why lawyers spend two-thirds of their time doing non-legal work, and how Manifest uses AI to handle everything from business development to case prioritization.
They also cover the psychology of restarting after failure, why hustling doesn't matter if your fundamentals are wrong, and how having no options can be liberating.
Find more like this on Change Order.
Dan Mishin is the Founder and CEO of Manifest OS, an AI-native legal infrastructure platform helping lawyers double their income by eliminating non-legal work. Before Manifest, he founded June Homes and learned hard lessons about business fundamentals.
Dan and Jason discuss why lawyers spend two-thirds of their time doing non-legal work, and how Manifest uses AI to handle everything from business development to case prioritization.
They also cover the psychology of restarting after failure, why hustling doesn't matter if your fundamentals are wrong, and how having no options can be liberating.
Find more like this on Change Order.
Connect with us here:
Dan Mishin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielmishin/
Jason Shuman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonshuman/
00:00 Introduction
02:30 From Crimea to Berlin: The Origin of a Business Idea
09:45 Building a Hostel Empire Across 13 Countries
21:30 Exiting a Business and the Decision to Start Over
29:00 Arriving in America: The First Call That Changed Everything
38:00 Why He Refused to Build Another Legal Software Company
47:30 Inside Manifest OS: Reimagining How Legal Work Gets Done
57:00 Global Expansion and the Future of Legal Services

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