What does it mean to be fully present in a body—and what becomes possible when we challenge assumptions about who gets to dance, how we experience art, and which senses we value?

KSVY’s Ronny Joe Grooms sits down with artist, curator and “memory keeper” Seth Eisen and blind interdisciplinary performer and accessibility consultant Tiffany Taylor for an expansive conversation inspired by PLEASE. STAY. TOUCH. — Jess Curtis Experiments with Gravity, now in its final weekend at Fort Mason Center for Arts & Culture in San Francisco.

Curated by Eisen and LisaRuth Elliott, the exhibition transforms the archive of pioneering choreographer Jess Curtis into a multisensory, participatory experience exploring movement, touch, disability, perception, memory and presence.

Taylor, who performed and collaborated with Curtis in works including Sight Unseen, (In)-Visible and Into the Dark, recalls the moment she told him, “Jess, I’m not a dancer.” His response: “Well, sure you are.” From there, the conversation explores Curtis’s radical curiosity, integrated casts of disabled and non-disabled performers, accessibility as an artistic language, dancing in complete darkness, consent, tactile experience, and the many ways our bodies know the world.

As Eisen asks in the conversation: “How do we transform by being present?”

PLEASE. STAY. TOUCH. — Jess Curtis Experiments with Gravity closes Sunday, August 16, at Fort Mason Center for Arts & Culture in San Francisco. https://fortmason.org/event/please-stay-touch-jess-curtis-experiments-with-gravity/2026-07-01/

Listen to the full conversation, then go experience the exhibition while you still can.