The Engine – Founders Stories
The Engine - Founders Stories
Podcast Description
Explore the journeys of today’s most inspiring tech founders on The Engine – Founders Stories, hosted by Donna Owen, founder and fractional GTM leader at The Engine. Discover how visionary entrepreneurs overcame the “founder-led sales” trap to build predictable, scalable revenue engines - and learn how you can do the same for your business.
Join Donna as she sits down with C-suite executives, startup pioneers and growth architects behind groundbreaking SaaS and fintech ventures. Each episode unpacks real-world challenges - from recruiting your first sales team to implementing cost-effective tech stacks - and shares the proven tactics that turned early-stage startups into market leaders.
Whether you’re a founder ready to scale, a sales leader seeking fresh playbooks, or a startup advisor looking for actionable case studies, The Engine – Founders Stories delivers the insightful conversations and tangible outcomes you need. Subscribe now on your favorite podcast platform to join the revenue revolution of the future, today.
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Content Themes
The podcast explores themes surrounding startup growth, sales strategies, and technology innovation, with episodes discussing topics such as overcoming the founder-led sales trap, recruiting sales teams effectively, and implementing efficient tech solutions. For example, one episode covers how AI can transform recruitment processes, while another discusses the tactics needed for securing a startup acquisition.

Explore the journeys of today’s most inspiring tech founders on The Engine – Founders Stories, hosted by Donna Owen, founder and fractional GTM leader at The Engine. Discover how visionary entrepreneurs overcame the “founder-led sales” trap to build predictable, scalable revenue engines – and learn how you can do the same for your business.
Join Donna as she sits down with C-suite executives, startup pioneers and growth architects behind groundbreaking SaaS and fintech ventures. Each episode unpacks real-world challenges – from recruiting your first sales team to implementing cost-effective tech stacks – and shares the proven tactics that turned early-stage startups into market leaders.
Whether you’re a founder ready to scale, a sales leader seeking fresh playbooks, or a startup advisor looking for actionable case studies, The Engine – Founders Stories delivers the insightful conversations and tangible outcomes you need. Subscribe now on your favorite podcast platform to join the revenue revolution of the future, today.
Welcome to The Engine – Founders’ Stories Podcast. Host Donna Owen is joined by George Lineker, Co-Founder of YourBusinessNumber. This company provides a second phone number and eSIM to help freelancers and small businesses separate their work and personal lives. George shares his journey from a previous failed app to building a lean, bootstrapped business over four years. He discusses the challenges of relying on platforms like WhatsApp and his vision for a more complete product. George also opens up about his privileged background, his learnings from past ventures, and the importance of routine and a strong team.
In this episode, George shares his journey from a previous venture in second-number apps to co-founding YourBusinessNumber, a company helping freelancers and small business owners separate their work and personal communications. He talks about how identifying the persistent problem of managing two phones led him to build a simple and affordable solution. George also explains the challenge of relying on another platform like WhatsApp Business and his strategic move into eSIM technology to create a more complete product. He shares insights on building a lean team, learning from past failures, and his pragmatic approach to growing the business.
Key Takeaways:
- George’s journey from a failed app to a successful two-in-one phone solution.
- His company offers virtual numbers for WhatsApp and a full eSIM plan.
- Growth is driven by a lean team and targeted Google Ads.
- Success relies on a strong team and learning from past ventures.
- The future is focused on the independent eSIM product.
Additional Insights:
- How a privileged background provided the safety net to take entrepreneurial risks.
- Maintaining a daily routine is crucial for focus when working from home.
- The importance of having a skilled team where each member handles a specific area.
- Believing in the core idea is vital for persevering through challenges.
- How past business failures provided essential lessons for the current venture.
Here are a few quotes from the episode:
- “I know there are 20,000 people out there who have a use for two numbers on one phone for work.” – George Lineker
- “If you have a good team around you, that’s key.” – George Lineker
- “I think it’s normal to have things go wrong.” – George Lineker
Join George as he shares how his belief in solving the two-phone problem led to YourBusinessNumber, a company helping freelancers and small businesses get a separate work number to improve organization and enable them to switch off.
Episode Highlights
[00:00] – Teaser
[00:59] – Intro to George Lineker
[01:57] – What The Company Does
[03:10] – Solving The Two-Phone Problem
[05:44] – Origin of The Business Idea
[07:31] – Funding and Team Structure
[09:07] – Go-To-Market Strategy
[10:24] – The Challenge of Selling WhatsApp
[11:19] – Introducing The New eSIM Product
[12:44] – George’s Background and Schooling
[14:24] – Privilege and Risk-Taking
[19:14] – The “Last Go” Before a Job
[24:09] – Key Learnings as a Founder
[28:19] – The Fully Automated Customer Journey
[30:40] – Total Addressable Market
[33:00] – Future Focus: The eSIM
[35:20] – What’s Next for the Business, Personal Aspirations
FOLLOW THE GUEST & HIS COMPANY:
- George Lineker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-lineker-6907bb13b/
- YourBusinessNumber: https://www.linkedin.com/company/yourbusinessnumber/
- Email the team: [email protected]
FOLLOW THE HOST:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donnalowen/
- Company LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-engine-growth/
- Website: https://www.theengine.uk/
- Email: [email protected]

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