Other Ways Of Seeing
Other Ways Of Seeing
Podcast Description
A project to uncover art practices within the creative industries, by people that create for money and make art for themselves.
Questions, musings, conversations and observations on what we do artistically, creatively, to complement or counteract our paid work.
Fascinated by our urge to create Mel Fong talks to artists, filmmakers, musicians and creatives of all types about their (personal) practices.
Mel Fong has worked in the advertising industry for two decades-ish representing film directors, artists and production companies.
To find more information about the project plus supporting images and transcripts of each conversation please head to https://other-ways-of-seeing.com
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
Focuses on the intersection of personal artistic expression and commercial work, with episodes diving into topics like balancing creative practices with paid work, the evolution of artistic identity, and the impact of personal experience on creative output. For example, one episode explores the influences behind a photographer's shift from advertising to fine art.
A project to uncover art practices within the creative industries, by people that create for money and make art for themselves.
Questions, musings, conversations and observations on what we do artistically, creatively, to complement or counteract our paid work.
Fascinated by our urge to create Mel Fong talks to artists, filmmakers, musicians and creatives of all types about their (personal) practices.
Mel Fong has worked in the advertising industry for two decades-ish representing film directors, artists and production companies.
To find more information about the project plus supporting images and transcripts of each conversation please head to https://other-ways-of-seeing.com
Welcome to the fourth Other Ways of Seeing conversation. Other Ways of Seeing is a project to discover the personal or not so personal art practices of people who work in the creative industries. What they make and why they make it. This conversation is with Steph. I can’t reveal her whole name as she’s chosen to talk to me anonymously. Steph is the Global Creative Director of a toy company. I mean that’s dumming it down, it’s probably the most famous toy company in the world and it’s not just for kids either. It’s brilliant at encouraging creativity.. and clearly her job is incredibly creative. And yet.. in her very little spare time she chooses to be creative in a different way. She is a comedian. She’s been writing comedy for a few years now and more recently she’s been performing.
This conversation was recorded at the end of November 2025. We talk about not quitting your day job and why.. The practice of waking up early every morning to write. The comedy writing techniques she’s learned from Logan Murray. Drinking coffee (and vodka!) though tampons.. bit sad we go into that more. The ‘crumbs of validation’ from her Instagram profile. Admitting the thing that you really truly desire. Bombing but carrying on. Being funny at work. The 90s ‘lean in’ culture. What it means to be ‘professional’. The blurring boundaries between personal and work life. Becoming more confident at stand up. Making people laugh being the best feeling in the world. The sitcom Hacks. Writing about immigration and getting negative comments. And hurricane names.
Before we get into the conversation, a quick note about sponsorship. Right at the beginning of the conversation I mention not wanting to monetise Other Ways of Seeing or look for sponsorship as this could affect who I talk to. Which of course is true but not necessarily a bad thing. I take it back! Hungryman, a super successful production company have just offered me sponsorship. I didn’t even ask for it! And it would be crazy to refuse because now I can buy some decent mics. And they have opened the doors to some ridiculously interesting conversations. So thank you Hungryman for the support and being my first ever sponsor.
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