In this episode of Just Make a Change, Jamar sits down with Lisa for a powerful, honest, and deeply personal conversation about faith, family, and perseverance. Lisa shares the advice she would give her younger self, the moments where discouragement pulled her away from God, and how prayer, endurance, and spiritual awareness brought her back.

Together, they explore what it looks like to recognize God in everyday moments, how faith is passed on within a family, and why hope is something no one can take from you. From raising children with intention, to navigating marriage, to learning how to speak life instead of negativity, this episode is a reminder that God meets us exactly where we are.