LOOPHOLES
LOOPHOLES
Podcast Description
A podcast investigating the breakdowns and breakthroughs in our circular systems and infrastructure.Loopholes is pulling back the curtain on the messy middle of the circular economy. Where good intentions meet broken bins, bold policies, and the reality of ageing infrastructure.Hosted by Justin Frank (Goterra) and Kate Dryden (Sphere Infrastructure), each episode explores what’s working, what’s failing, and what it’s really going to take to close the loop for good.From FOGO rollouts to global case studies, we spotlight the changemakers, innovators, and revolutionaries driving the shift to circular.Smart. Honest. Surprisingly hopeful. Subscribe and stay in the loop.
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Content Themes
The podcast focuses on themes such as circular economy systems, waste management, and infrastructure challenges, with specific episodes covering topics like the FOGO initiative and its implications, as well as global case studies of successful circular practices. The show emphasizes the intersection of policy, technology, and community efforts.
A podcast investigating the breakdowns and breakthroughs in our circular systems and infrastructure.
Loopholes is pulling back the curtain on the messy middle of the circular economy. Where good intentions meet broken bins, bold policies, and the reality of ageing infrastructure.
Hosted by Justin Frank (Goterra) and Kate Dryden (Sphere Infrastructure), each episode explores what’s working, what’s failing, and what it’s really going to take to close the loop for good.
From FOGO rollouts to global case studies, we spotlight the changemakers, innovators, and revolutionaries driving the shift to circular.
Smart. Honest. Surprisingly hopeful. Subscribe and stay in the loop.
Guests: Jonathan Maybury & Stephanie Clark (SUEZ ANZ)
In this episode, Kate Dryden and Justin Frank sit down with SUEZ leaders Jonathan Maybury (waste) and Stephanie Clark (water) for a straight-talking look at why Australia still thinks in straight lines, and how to bend systems into a circular shape. From Singapore’s NEWater to WA’s aquifer recharge and the politics of social licence, they unpack what’s working, what isn’t, and why economics is the real bottleneck. Expect pragmatic takes on energy-from-waste, purified recycled water, and the planning links we keep missing between data centres, water, and waste.
- “Aspiration can be the enemy of progress-start with the better option now.”
- “Be curious, not judgmental” about energy-from-waste.
- “Yes! In my backyard”
Resources Mentioned:
- Singapore NEWater & desalination models
- WA groundwater replenishment (PRW to aquifers)
- Biogas-to-grid pilots and industrial recycled water use
- IKEA furniture buy-back; City of Sydney social housing recycling uplift
Hosts: Kate Dryden (Sphere Infrastructure) & Justin Frank (Goterra)
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