In this episode, hosts Aashna Doshi & Rayan Dabbagh sit down with Carrol Chang, CEO of Andela, the global tech talent marketplace connecting companies with top engineers across 135+ countries.

From her early work in immigration and public service to scaling global operations at Uber during one of its most turbulent eras, Carrol shares how change management, storytelling, and systems thinking shaped her leadership journey and why she believes AI will create more technology jobs, not eliminate them.

We explore how Andela uses AI-driven assessments to match engineers with companies, what “AI-native” developers need to focus on, and why architecture and critical thinking matter more than ever. Carrol breaks down the future of hiring, from human + agent collaboration to task-based work replacing traditional job structures.

Along the way, we discuss:

• Why junior engineers might actually win in the AI era
• The real difference between coding and architecting systems
• How remote work unlocks global opportunity
• What skills will separate top talent in the next decade
• The one leadership lesson she carried from Uber into Andela

Whether you’re a CS student questioning your major, a founder building in the AI age, or an engineer navigating this shift, this episode is a roadmap for the next generation of work.