Do Human Work
Do Human Work
Podcast Description
Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.
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Content Themes
The podcast covers themes such as the integration of AI in security operations, leadership transformation, and reclaiming creativity in cybersecurity workforces, with episodes like 'From Sleep to Strategy' focusing on human engagement and AI's impact on compliance and detection workflows, and 'From Burnout to Breakthrough' examining the transformative power of AI agents in Security Operations Centers.
Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.
Season Two of Do Human Work opens with Jatarra Warren, Senior Director of Information Security at Lovesac, tracing her journey from teaching soldiers how to trust battlefield communication systems in the Army National Guard, straight into cybersecurity leadership.
Ninety days into her new role, she talks candidly about the humility-and-confidence balance required to lead a team you don’t yet fully understand, why AI is forcing security teams to finally fix the foundations they’ve been skipping, and why fighting AI-driven attackers still comes down to the same basic controls that mattered a decade ago.
She’s also a certified life coach, and makes the case that coaching, not code, is the skill security leaders need most right now. It’s a reminder that in security, the hardest skill to automate is still the ability to lead people through change.
Impactful Moments:
00:00 – Introduction
01:25 – Why season two: rethinking cybersecurity from the foundations up
01:55 – Meet Jatarra Warren, Senior Director of Information Security at Lovesac
02:30 – The Foundation segment: Jatarra’s origin story from Army National Guard to cyber
04:00 – What teaching soldiers to trust life-or-death tech taught her about security
07:50 – The hardest jump: military discipline meets corporate culture shock
10:50 – Why AI won’t remove the human element from security
12:20 – Fighting fire with fire: using AI to counter AI-powered attackers
17:00 – PLAID (People-Led AI Driven) and leading teams through change with empathy
18:40 – Mythos, vulnerability management, and getting the basics right first
23:00 – 90 days into Jatarra’s job at Lovesac: leading new territory with humility and confidence
30:15 – Life coaching, ministry roots, and leadership as influence
34:00 – Lightning round: best security book everyone should read, best Tampa food, and couch vs. desk
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