Do Human Work
Do Human Work
Podcast Description
Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast covers themes such as the integration of AI in security operations, leadership transformation, and reclaiming creativity in cybersecurity workforces, with episodes like 'From Sleep to Strategy' focusing on human engagement and AI's impact on compliance and detection workflows, and 'From Burnout to Breakthrough' examining the transformative power of AI agents in Security Operations Centers.
Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.
Title:
From Sleep to Strategy: Cyber’s Human Future featuring John Koester
Summary:
In this episode, Nate and Lior travel to Atlanta to sit down with John Koester, CISO of Graphic Packaging International, to explore what AI means for the human side of cybersecurity. From reimagining compliance and detection workflows to prioritizing creativity and employee development, John offers a grounded vision for how AI can return time to the people doing the work—and why that matters more than ever.
He discusses the pressing need for relationship-building inside large organizations, the risks of fast-moving attackers using AI, and how cyber leaders must prepare their teams to become true business partners. This conversation touches on architectural evolution, risk quantification, and the enduring importance of human engagement.
Impactful Moments
00:00 – Introduction
02:17 – AI gives time back for human focus
04:09 – AI can boost response effectiveness
06:00 – Attackers use AI to scale threats
08:03 – “Fire against fire” in cyber defense
09:00 – Building trust through employee outreach
10:29 – Innovation comes from unexpected voices
13:02 – AI and the future of compliance
14:00 – Toward quantifying real dollar risk
16:13 – Rethinking architecture in the AI era
18:38 – “The current model is kind of broken”
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