Do Human Work
Do Human Work
Podcast Description
Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.
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Content Themes
The podcast covers themes such as the integration of AI in security operations, leadership transformation, and reclaiming creativity in cybersecurity workforces, with episodes like 'From Sleep to Strategy' focusing on human engagement and AI's impact on compliance and detection workflows, and 'From Burnout to Breakthrough' examining the transformative power of AI agents in Security Operations Centers.
Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.
What if AI could eliminate burnout instead of just speeding things up? Gavin Grisamore, CISO at Lead Bank, joins Nate Burke and Lior Div to reimagine the future of cybersecurity, one where AI agents reduce toil, reshape SOC structures, and elevate human creativity.
In this episode, Gavin shares what it really means to manage risk in an AI-driven environment. From rethinking alert fatigue and L1/L2 roles to challenging sunk cost fallacies and shifting defensive strategies, the trio explores how AI is not just another tool, but a transformation. Whether you’re leading a team or navigating boardroom AI pressure, this conversation will challenge your assumptions about what’s next.
Impactful Moments:
00:00 – Introduction
00:53 – The value of leisure in cybersecurity
03:25 – AI’s role in risk management
05:15 – Rethinking security with AI agents
09:00 – Evolution of alerting structures in SOCs
11:14 – The fast and furious future of attacks
15:30 – Sunk cost fallacy in technology
20:31 – Future team dynamics in cybersecurity
23:30 – Transformation of threat intelligence
26:55 – Balancing human creativity with AI capabilities
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