Ron Chan, a prolific bug bounty hunter, was featured in Forbes as one of the elite few to surpass $1 million in rewards from ethical hacking programs. Throughout his career, he's made high-impact submissions to platforms such as Uber, GitLab, Yahoo, Google, PayPal and Spotify. Fast forward to 2025, Ron uses his exceptional skill set to help New Zealand organisations identify and address security vulnerabilities – now serving as Principal Consultant at Nova Security. In today's episode, we discuss the landscape of penetration testing and bug bounty programmes – and how the ”builders” (product teams and technology creators) can work effectively with the ”breakers” (penetration testers and ethical hackers like Ron) to create more secure digital solutions.