Business Side of Music
Business Side of Music
Podcast Description
The Business Side of Music podcast features interviews with leading industry professionals and working musicians, offering real-world advice to help artists grow their careers and incomes. Founded by Tom Sabella and Traci Snowe in 2008, the show has a rich legacy of empowering musicians.
For many years, the podcast was hosted by Bob Bender, a respected industry veteran known for his work with Ringo Starr, Billy Preston, and Curb Records. Bob’s passing in 2023 left a lasting impact, and we continue to honor his legacy.
Today, the podcast is hosted by Sarah Fleshner, a music industry professional with over 12 years of experience in artist management, live sound, touring, and business development. As owner of 362 Entertainment, Sarah brings fresh insights while carrying forward the show's mission: pulling back the curtain on the business side of music and helping artists succeed.
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Content Themes
The podcast covers a variety of themes related to the music industry such as artist management, concert production, music rights, and marketing strategies. For instance, recent episodes include discussions on the impact of artificial intelligence on music, insights from music venue production managers, and strategies for effective fan engagement and data utilization in live music settings.
The Business Side of Music podcast features interviews with leading industry professionals and working musicians, offering real-world advice to help artists grow their careers and incomes. Founded by Tom Sabella and Traci Snowe in 2008, the show has a rich legacy of empowering musicians.
For many years, the podcast was hosted by Bob Bender, a respected industry veteran known for his work with Ringo Starr, Billy Preston, and Curb Records. Bob’s passing in 2023 left a lasting impact, and we continue to honor his legacy.
Today, the podcast is hosted by Sarah Fleshner, a music industry professional with over 12 years of experience in artist management, live sound, touring, and business development. As owner of 362 Entertainment, Sarah brings fresh insights while carrying forward the show’s mission: pulling back the curtain on the business side of music and helping artists succeed.
Why do artists get busier than ever and still go broke? Because most musicians treat the paycheck as profit and forget the costs that consume it.
In this episode, Sarah sits down with Gary Arbuthnot and Craig Meyer, co-founders of GigLogic, a pricing and negotiation tool built for touring artists. Craig is a lifelong performer with Broadway, film, and Disney voice credits, and creator of the touring show Rocket Man: The Elton John Experience. Gary is a classical flutist turned booking agent who spent 20+ years headlining on cruise lines before moving to the agency side of the business.
They break down the one cost almost every artist forgets (it's taxes, and it can catch you owing thousands), how merchandise sales trigger tax filings in every state you sell in, and how to choose between a flat guarantee, a straight door split, or a back-end deal depending on where you are in your career. They also get into what real negotiating leverage looks like for a new artist, why 100 true fans beat 10,000 passive followers, and the red flags in an offer sheet that mean it's time to walk away.
What you'll learn:
Why artists can be busier than ever and still be losing money on every gig
The most common cost musicians forget to factor into an offer
How merchandise sales create tax obligations most artists don't see coming
How to evaluate a flat guarantee, a door split, and a back-end deal
What real negotiating leverage looks like for a new or independent artist
Why organic, local fans matter more than a big but passive following
The red flags in a contract that signal a gig isn't worth taking
”Most artists think that the paycheck is the profit.” — Gary Arbuthnot
”The sustained artist is the free artist.” — Craig A. Meyer
Learn more about GigLogic at giglogic.com
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