The Fourth Leg

The Fourth Leg
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The Fourth Leg is a series of podcasts focused on one of the most complex systems in the world today—nuclear command and control—and its increasingly complicated future. Hosted by Institute for Security and Technology's Philip Reiner, we go straight to the experts across multiple sectors to discuss the modernization of nuclear command and control systems.
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The podcast tackles themes like the modernization of nuclear command and control, historical communication methods in nuclear strategy, and the implications of emerging technologies on nuclear security. Episodes cover topics such as the evolution of nuclear hotlines, the role of formal methods in secure system design, and specific regional challenges faced by countries like Pakistan and Israel in maintaining nuclear stability.

The Fourth Leg is a series of podcasts focused on one of the most complex systems in the world today—nuclear command and control—and its increasingly complicated future. Hosted by Institute for Security and Technology’s Philip Reiner, we go straight to the experts across multiple sectors to discuss the modernization of nuclear command and control systems.
In this episode, Philip Reiner and Peter Hayes are joined by nuclear weapons and conflict resolution expert, Steven E. Miller, to discuss the historical significance and evolution of nuclear communications. Hotlines have increased and improved over time, reaching well beyond the White House’s red telephone link to Moscow. Miller brings us through the history of hotlines and the role they play in conflict, de-escalation, alliances, and nuclear strategy today. Their criticality is clear — the most heavily armed nuclear rivals should be able to directly communicate in all circumstances. Tune in to find out why our CATALINK design – a radically simple and secure nuclear crisis communications hotline – is necessary for averting future war.

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