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Today’s conversation is with Nik Bhatia — author of Bitcoin Age and Layered Money, founder of The Bitcoin Layer, and one of the most thoughtful voices on Bitcoin, money, and global markets.

In this episode, Nik breaks down the Bitcoin Layer Grid and explains why Bitcoin is currently in capitulation, how trend and valuation interact, and why the best opportunities often emerge when Bitcoin is both cheap and out of favor.

Nik explains why Bitcoin’s market cycles form more like an ellipse than a perfect circle, what metrics drive his trend model, and why he expects compressed volatility in the months ahead.

We discuss whether Bitcoin could fall below $45K this year, how IBIT options activity and institutional hedging can reduce volatility and drawdowns, and what historically high oil prices could mean for Bitcoin as an inflation hedge.

We then zoom out to one of the biggest questions surrounding Bitcoin: is it money, an investment, or both?

Nik explains how AI agents could eventually utilize Bitcoin, why he sees Bitcoin as a savings technology designed to outpace inflation, and why Bitcoin is the only asset investors are willing to allocate 100% of their capital toward.

He also explains why Bitcoin remains so misunderstood — and why that misunderstanding could create asymmetric returns for investors who recognize its potential early.

The conversation goes deeper into Bitcoin’s role in the financial system, including why borrowers do not use Bitcoin credit, why banks have historically preferred inflation, and Nik’s perspective on Bitcoin treasury companies like MSTR.

We close by discussing why Nik continues to focus on short-term Bitcoin analysis despite being a long-term believer, and why he believes Bitcoin is ultimately a 100+ year technology.Stick around until the end — Nik lays out a compelling framework for understanding Bitcoin’s valuation, volatility, monetary role, and long-term potential, while explaining why the biggest opportunity may come from understanding Bitcoin before the rest of the market does.

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

1:20 Why Bitcoin Is Currently Cheap — Trend & Valuation Analysis

9:09 Is Sub-$45K Bitcoin This Year Likely?

17:38 How IBIT Options Activity and Hedging Reduce Volatility

20:42 What Historically High Oil Prices Mean for Bitcoin

27:01 Is Bitcoin Money, an Investment, or Both?

32:53 How AI Agents Will Utilize Bitcoin

37:46 Bitcoin as a Store of Value and Savings Technology

40:22 Why Bitcoin Is the Only Asset Investors Go 100% Into

48:21 Why Bitcoin Is Still So Misunderstood

56:48 Why Borrowers Do Not Need to Use Bitcoin Credit

1:02:07 Why Banks Prefer Inflation

1:05:45 Nik’s Take on Bitcoin Treasury Companies Like MSTR

1:09:35 Why Nik Focuses on Short-Term Analysis as a Long-Term Bitcoin Believer

1:11:49 Why Nik Believes Bitcoin Is a 100+ Year Technology

1:13:56 Where to Follow Nik and The Bitcoin Layer

About Nik:

Nik Bhatia is the author of Bitcoin Age and Layered Money and the founder of The Bitcoin Layer, a research and media platform focused on Bitcoin, monetary economics, and global financial markets. He is known for his work explaining Bitcoin through the lens of monetary history, financial infrastructure, and macroeconomics. Nik’s research explores Bitcoin’s role as money, a savings technology, and a potential foundation for a new financial system. Nik is an Adjunct Professor of Finance USC Marshall.

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