Beyond The Magic

Beyond The Magic
Podcast Description
Beyond The Magic is an interview series where magicians drop the secrets — not of tricks, but of their journey. Hosted by the Magic Alon Society, each 30-40 minute episode dives into the minds of today’s most captivating magicians — from rising stars to seasoned legends. Discover the stories, struggles, and sparks of inspiration that live just behind each magician’s unique story.
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Content Themes
The show focuses on themes such as the personal journeys of magicians, the creative processes behind their performances, and the challenges they face in the industry. For example, episodes feature magicians discussing their rise to fame, the pressures of competition, and the unique experiences that shape their craft, as seen in the premiere episode with Rafferty Coope, who shares his journey from lockdown shuffles to performing at prestigious events.

Beyond The Magic is an interview series where magicians drop the secrets — not of tricks, but of their journey. Hosted by the Magic Alon Society, each 30-40 minute episode dives into the minds of today’s most captivating magicians — from rising stars to seasoned legends. Discover the stories, struggles, and sparks of inspiration that live just behind each magician’s unique story.
In this episode, we go beyond the magic with Ben Seidman — award-winning performer, creator of Permanent Record and The Oracle System, consultant on Now You See Me 3, and co-author of the new book Principles of Destruction.
A three-time Vanity Fair guest andtwo-time Penn & Teller: Fool Us performer, Ben shares his journey into professional magic, his creative process, what makes a routine feel “finished,” and how he developed signature effects that have become worldwide favourites.
He breaks down the balance between comedy, magic, and storytelling, revealing how to make an audience laugh and gasp within the same routine — and why that emotional variety matters.
We also talk about pickpocketing (“the most invasive form of magic”), teaching at Blackpool, the magic behind teaching itself, and his passion for sharing methods with fellow magicians.
✨ Real magicians. Real stories.
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