If you are completely exhausted by national political noise and panic-driven fundraising spam, you are looking at the wrong political map.

On this episode of Professional Jealousy, Anomaly’s Chief Innovation Officer Natasha Jakubowski sits down with Daniel Squadron (former NY State Senator, Co-founder and Executive Director of The States Project, and author of the new book The Fourth Branch) and Melissa Walker (Head of Giving Circles at The States Project) to explore how true political power can be reclaimed from the ground up.

As Melissa puts it: ”We work not where the glamour is, just where the power is.” 💡By bypassing traditional, top-down political gatekeepers and focusing directly on community grassroots, The States Project has engineered a model that allows everyday friend circles to completely shift the balance of power in state capitols. They have taken complex, intimidating political systems and turned them into a simple, collaborative math problem that trusted social networks can solve together.

Tune in to discover how a former state lawmaker and a novelist teamed up to demystify power, break right-wing supermajorities on razor-thin margins, and prove that real change starts right within your own social circle.

Key topics include:

00:00 – Intro: The Illusion of Federal Power

04:15 – Why Daniel Left the State Senate to Build a Movement

11:30 – Enter Melissa Walker: Translating Politics into Human Stories

18:45 – What is a Giving Circle? (And Why It Beats Traditional Campaigns)

27:10 – The ROI of Grassroots Dollars: State vs. National

36:15 – Overcoming Cynicism: How to Build a Brand People Trust

44:30 – Outro & How to Take Action

Check out:

https://statesproject.org/

And look for 'The Fourth Brand: How State Governments Can Save Our Union' by Daniel Squadron, Co-Founder of The States Project

https://statesproject.org/fourthbranch/