The Next Move
The Next Move
Podcast Description
Endurance, strength, and long-term health in all its forms. The Next Move features conversations with athletes, coaches, scientists, and thinkers exploring how to train, think, and live better.
By John Paton - @johngetstrong johngetstrong.substack.com
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Content Themes
The show focuses on various themes related to endurance and strength training, exploring in-depth topics like the Norwegian Method of training, double threshold interval training, and the importance of rest in athletic performance. Episodes feature detailed discussions on techniques used by world-class athletes, the impact of heart rate variability, and the science behind effective training strategies, with specific episodes such as one with Brad Culp discussing the principles used by elite Norwegian athletes.
Endurance, strength, and long-term health in all its forms. The Next Move features conversations with athletes, coaches, scientists, and thinkers exploring how to train, think, and live better.
By John Paton – @johngetstrong
George Hearn is a life coach who came into coaching through a high-achieving academic and corporate path—studying Geography at Cambridge, spending years in strategy consulting, and then moving into the startup world—before realizing he was more drawn to helping people design intentional, fulfilling lives
In this episode, George breaks down what coaching actually is (and why it’s often not about giving advice), how he structures sessions using tools like the Wheel of Life, Ikigai, and visualization, and how everyday practices like journaling, distraction-free walks, and even AI chatbots can support self-reflection. He also shares the behind-the-scenes of building his coaching business from scratch—finding clients, learning marketing and sales on the fly, navigating uncertainty, and building the support network needed to go all-in.
Episode breakdown:
00:00 — What a coach actually does
01:01 — Coaching vs therapy, consulting, and mentorship
03:04 — George’s life coaching origin story
10:34 — The Wheel of Life: mapping the key areas and finding gaps
13:27 — Prioritization + Pareto: focusing on what actually moves the needle
14:04 — Ikigai: purpose at the intersection of skills, love, value, and need
16:26 — Visualization: the “80-year-old you” exercise
18:59 — Self-coaching tools: journaling for clarity + momentum
21:34 — Thinking walks: default mode network and the “exam question”
24:11 — Using chatbots for reflection: powerful, but don’t outsource decisions
28:20 — Building the coaching business: learn-by-doing + finding clients
32:28 — Living with uncertainty: risk, confidence, and growth mindset
35:23 — The solo founder problem: building a support network
38:22 — Developing coaching skills: listening, communication, self-work
41:01 — When self-improvement becomes obsessive: staying balanced
44:32 — What George is curious about: why people don’t aim for a 10/10 life
46:44 — Closing reflections
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