How We Build This
How We Build This
Podcast Description
How We Build This is a podcast how we can take action in a time of rising authoritarianism and shrinking rights. Hosted by longtime climate and movement leader, May Boeve, each episode finds May in conversation with with organizers, activists, and changemakers as they try to make sense of how movements are born, and how they grow, and what we can do right now.
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The podcast explores themes of social justice, activism, and the dynamics of organizing in a time of authoritarianism, with specific episode topics such as the origins of Black Lives Matter, the impact of the Ferguson uprising, and the role of personal experiences in shaping movements. Each episode includes discussions on building power for marginalized communities and navigating political landscapes.

How We Build This is a podcast how we can take action in a time of rising authoritarianism and shrinking rights. Hosted by longtime climate and movement leader, May Boeve, each episode finds May in conversation with with organizers, activists, and changemakers as they try to make sense of how movements are born, and how they grow, and what we can do right now.
In this episode of How We Build This, May Boeve sits down with Chris Neff, a nationally respected labor leader, union builder, labor lawyer, and leadership coach. Neff unpacks how worker power actually gets built (and defended) in a moment of rising authoritarianism. She also traces her path from “seventies feminist troublemaker” to union leadership, sharing how she discovered the leverage of collective bargaining, and what it looks like to organize locally when federal protections are being dismantled.
Together, May and Chris dig into the labor movement’s role in resisting Trump era attacks, why institutions need cross-generational succession, and how changing who leads can transform an entire movement. They also explore the delicate (but essential) work of building solidarity between climate and labor.
How We Build This is created and hosted by May Boeve
Producer: Phil Surkis
Theme music: ‘Within’, composed by Ruthie Dineen, and performed by Negative Press Project.
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