On the We Made This Political podcast, hosts Lura Forcum and Lauren Hall interview David Beckmeyer, creator of Outrage Overload, about how constant political conflict shapes emotions, behavior, and relationships. Beckmeyer explains he began the project after seeing post-2016 and COVID-era outrage break friendships and families, and after recognizing his own role in online pile-ons. They discuss how outrage can feel rewarding through shared social judgment, how misinformation and especially framing distort public understanding, and how social media enables people to form insulated bubbles at global scale—even without algorithms. The conversation emphasizes complexity, trade-offs, and opportunity costs in policy debates, urging curiosity, practical “scripts” like “tell me more,” boundaries when needed, and more local, relationship-based engagement to reduce polarization.

00:00 Online Bubbles Begin

00:28 Podcast And Guest Intro

01:54 Why Outrage Overload

04:17 The Reward Of Outrage

06:09 Lessons From 125 Experts

08:40 Tech Algorithms And Misinformation

13:20 Framing And Media Funnels

16:29 Local Community Reality Check

19:04 Landscape And Ecosystem Thinking

22:51 Tradeoffs Over Talking Points

23:48 COVID Debates Gone Wrong

30:20 Immigration As Outrage Bludgeon

34:35 Bridging Work Surprise

35:26 Why People Resist Bridging

37:49 Tribal Segregation Instincts

39:15 Outrage Versus Overload

40:14 Tradeoffs And Bandwidth

42:06 Relationships Breaking Apart

44:06 Stop Trying To Win

46:24 Curiosity Scripts That Work

53:48 Shared Projects Humanize

56:50 Parenting Lessons On Outrage

01:00:04 Tell Me More Mindset

01:02:24 Where To Find David

01:03:14 Reasons For Optimism

01:04:30 Final Thanks And Outro

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Find all of David’s work, including his podcast Outrage Overload, at outrageoverload.net

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