The Fireproof Podcast
The Fireproof Podcast
Podcast Description
Fireproof is where burnout meets breakthrough. Co-hosted by Rebecca Herrington and Chelsie Kuhn, this conversational wellness podcast brings humor, heart, and honesty to the messy process of healing.
Each episode blends personal stories, evidence-based insights, and real talk about navigating stress, burnout, and the pursuit of peace. From reflecting on wellness trends to sharing our own recovery journeys, we offer practical takeaways and gentle encouragement for women and wellness seekers at any life stage.
Whether you’re pivoting careers, in a life transition, or simply craving more joy and ease, Fireproof is your place to exhale, laugh, and start building a life that feels good again.
Join us to reconnect with what fuels you and explore how coaching and retreats with us can support your next chapter.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast focuses on themes of stress management, burnout recovery, and holistic well-being, with episodes discussing topics such as wellness trends, personal healing journeys, and practical strategies for life transitions. For example, episodes explore the therapeutic effects of ocean breathing, the impact of journaling on mental health, and the importance of grounding oneself in nature.
Fireproof is where burnout meets breakthrough. Co-hosted by Rebecca Herrington and Chelsie Kuhn, this conversational wellness podcast brings humor, heart, and honesty to the messy process of healing.
Each episode blends personal stories, evidence-based insights, and real talk about navigating stress, burnout, and the pursuit of peace. From reflecting on wellness trends to sharing our own recovery journeys, we offer practical takeaways and gentle encouragement for women and wellness seekers at any life stage.
Whether you’re pivoting careers, in a life transition, or simply craving more joy and ease, Fireproof is your place to exhale, laugh, and start building a life that feels good again.
Join us to reconnect with what fuels you and explore how coaching and retreats with us can support your next chapter.
🎙️ Episode 4: Just Say No
Are you doing too much — even when you know better? In this episode of The Fireproof Podcast, we explore why saying “no” might just be the most healing thing you can do.
We dig into:
- Some root causes of burnout
- Physical and emotional signs you’re hitting your limits, and
- The statistics about doing too much
Plus: We share insights on heart rate variability, “virtuous subtraction,” and why outsourcing tasks can sometimes be a powerful act of resistance.
💡 Key Takeaways
- “No” is a complete sentence — and a free tool for burnout prevention
- You don’t need to earn rest
- Boundaries can be built over time, with awareness, support, and practice
📦 Want to practice saying no?
Starting tomorrow, (6/18) check out our Just Say No Cards on Etsy — a playful, supportive way to build the boundary-setting muscle.
Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And be sure to follow, subscribe, and share so you don’t miss next week’s episode, where we dig into emotions in the body.
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